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Personally I like B from a practabilty stand point
I like B too. I like the fact that piggybacking a semi gives it extra mobility...
It doesn't seem like the drivers girlfriend sitting on his lap would be as dangerous in B.Quote:
Originally Posted by canuck
Modern: C. Classic: A
So you would choose a modernized classic ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dtowncitylover
canuckle chuckle!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by muskie1
Given my druthers, maybe a Peter Witt car.....
Choose for what purpose? To be using in Detroit now? If that is the case then I choose "C". It reminds me of the trams in England - very efficient and easy to use, clean and comfy enough for a short trip.
From an aesthetic perspective, I like the nostalgia of the older one on the flat bed - love that old trolley look. Reminds me of Mr. Roger's "Trolley". hehehe
D looks the best to me.. make it happen.. oh, there's a TRU meeting today 5:30 p.m., 3408 Woodward south of Mack.. updates on the transit legislation/plans..
A. Kenosha runs these on thier streets currently.
Maybe we can have Cadillac build the Woodward Streetcar and gussie it up with 20" chrome wheels, leather seats, and a bose stereo system? Now that would be Detroit!
I would definitely pick a Streetcar named Desire
I'd choose the one that's going where I'm going.
I like A, but C and D look like they hold more people.
I'd go with D. On a side note, doesn't DDOT still house the newer trolleys they used for all of a year? I thought I saw a graveyard full of them at their HQ.
I'm not sure if they're still back there, I can't remember seeing them recently. Anyway, those things are buses with fancy bodywork. Rubber tires, diesel engines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genesyxx
There's something to be said for the classic ones, in my opinion. Nostalgia and all that, I guess. I saw they were still using some ancient streetcars, like from the 20's or something, in downtown San Francisco, and almost rode one just for fun.
I'd pick "A" Those PCC's a beautiful.
Am I the only one who noticed that "B" was taken on Washington Blvd. Downtown? The Statler is in the background as well as the Grand Park Centre and the Fyfe Building on the other side of the park...
esp1986....is that one of those little red ones that used to go around downtown?
I like D. Seems like it has capacity for a good amount of passengers.
None of the above.
Not embarrassed to be from the Motor City nor wishing it was a different city somewhere nor thinking automotive and related industries were or are evil.
There is nothing to be embarrassed about ,I am confused as to why someone would even say that without underlining reasons.
Detroit was one of the driving forces of protecting and building this country she went through a rough time just as others have that is nothing to be embarrassed about.
The question was pretty simple and there was a purpose behind it, the embarrassing part would be to stand up and say that Detroit cannot be the driving force once again ,I believe she can and will be again.But that may just be me.
they arent STILL using them, they only recently went back into service. they run in a loop down near the embarcadero on the F-line. they are from several different eras and are all in authentic liveries from different cities. you can ride them with a standard BART ticket...Quote:
I saw they were still using some ancient streetcars, like from the 20's or something, in downtown San Francisco, and almost rode one just for fun.
http://www.streetcar.org/streetcars/fleet.html
We rode a New Orleans streetcar when we were kids. I think it was on the Canal Street line.
One feature I remember was the seat backs which could be flipped forward or backward. The seat itself stayed stationary. You could ride facing either direction. I think they designed it that way so it didn't have to turn around at the end of the line. A conductor [[or whatever he was called) would flip all the seatbacks at the end of the line for the trip back.
I like A the best.
In the town that GM built you all dont want to use the uber practical and damn durable GM coaches ? Is GM still in that business, we are still using 1980's built GMC buses here.
Seems like rubber tired diesel powered buses can go everywhere a train can and also where a train cannot go with much better ROI, if there is a such a thing with public transportation.
The downtown Kenosha streetcar loop is the ultimate in waste and serves almost no one, altho me and my daughter enjoy riding it for the 50 cents it costs us. Its more of a novelty than anything tho I agree those old cars are built like a brick s&!thouses.
Let me illustrate this to you with an analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by East Detroit
Suppose you have a restaurant, and you serve every meal with a fork. Doesn't matter what it is--soup, steak, applesauce--all you have are forks. One day, somebody suggests to you that maybe investing in some knives and spoons would be a good idea, seeing as how all the other restaurants in town have them, and they seem to be attracting more customers than your place. Furious, you start ranting that they must just think forks are evil and be embarrassed to eat at a restaurant that serves food with forks and wish they were eating at a different restaurant somewhere else. The other person becomes thoroughly confused, much like I am right now. You continue to lose business, and attribute it to the fork-haters in your midst. Life goes on.
Whichever one represents a forward looking modern city, and is made in the USA.
Thank you for the clarification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltdave
I think C is a light rail train, and D is a streetcar system. There's a difference in how much they cost, and how they are used. I like A, though. Here's another picture of a San Francisco PCC painted in Detroit livery:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49502995517@N01/1343112653
I pick Choice A.
I believe in these times cities just implementing a street car system is being construed as forward looking for what ever reasons , modern has its plus and minuses as does the past, the key is to to be able to make them coexist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitDad
I chose B strictly from a production and cost standpoint but the PCC [[A)cars would a bit more to produce but there are still alot of production stampings around so implication is way more cost effective short term looking at the tooling aspect.
The Peter Witt cars are also nice.
Made in the USA would only be a given ,made 100% and not with foreign parts assembled here.
Here is E, the DDOT train going up Woodward full of happy Detroiters