Police Called to Whole Foods in Midtown

Well, it happened - police called to Whole Foods.

I was parking our car, and hubby and I realized that the police car that had driven into the lot before us had parked but had not moved, and the cops were obviously checking something out.

As we - and other onlookers - stopped to see what what happening, it was apparent that the police were examining an SUV and a woman [[a white female) was standing next to it, obviously distraught, apparently answering questions.

The police were looking in and out of the van, and we wondered if she had been robbed or the car vandalized - but there was no broken glass nearby, and the police didn't seem to be looking around for a suspect.

Oh my goodness.

After a moment it became apparent that there were babies in the car.

We were later told that an employee had seen the little ones in the car, alone, and reported it. She had not only left the babies in the SUV, but left the vehicle running as well.

The police seemed to be making a report and seemed to be asking this lady some hard questions, but we left before seeing what finally happened.

A possible tragedy in the making, but for the diligence of the Whole Foods folks, and the police.

All of us standing there were sheepish about how quickly we assumed that she was the victim.

At least, it's good to hear that the kids were OK.

Did you ask what the employee told the police to have them show up so quickly?

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

At least, it's good to hear that the kids were OK.

Did you ask what the employee told the police to have them show up so quickly?

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"A white woman is having some kind of problem in Midtown!"

Marshamusic:

Was it the Wayne State Police?

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

At least, it's good to hear that the kids were OK.

Did you ask what the employee told the police to have them show up so quickly?

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No, I didn't ask, I just assumed that when I was told that the employee reported what she saw, she reported that she saw the little ones alone in the car.

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Originally Posted by 48202

Marshamusic:

Was it the Wayne State Police?

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I don't really know. Might have been.

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

At least, it's good to hear that the kids were OK.

Did you ask what the employee told the police to have them show up so quickly?

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I believe that Wayne State Public Safety has Whole Foods within its jurisdiction, though I can't be sure. But if it does, their response time is generally under 3-5 minutes. For Whole Foods, it's probably even less.

They must have been there for the organic free trade donuts. ;)

Sort of a misleading thread...just sayin'

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Originally Posted by corktownyuppie

I believe that Wayne State Public Safety has Whole Foods within its jurisdiction, though I can't be sure. But if it does, their response time is generally under 3-5 minutes. For Whole Foods, it's probably even less.

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Wayne State's new medical school is directly across the street from Whole Foods, so I would imagine that's the WSU's jurisdiction.

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Originally Posted by marshamusic

She, a white female, had not only left the babies in the SUV, but left the vehicle running as well.

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I guess a BA doesn't automatically guarantee common sense.

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Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

I guess a BA doesn't automatically guarantee common sense.

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What makes you think she had a BA?

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Originally Posted by illwill

Sort of a misleading thread...just sayin'

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Why, illwill, is this thread misleading?

The title says that the police were called to Whole Foods, and that's what I described in my original post.

Did it take 58 minutes for them to show up?

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Originally Posted by chicagoforlife

Did it take 58 minutes for them to show up?

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WSUPD in Midtown has a 3-5 minute response rate. It was about 2 minutes for me when I called them because my house alarm went off.

Well shoot, this is good news, we're on our way up when stuff like this is news!

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Originally Posted by marshamusic

Why, illwill, is this thread misleading?

The title says that the police were called to Whole Foods, and that's what I described in my original post.

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I agree with illwill.

I initially the thread would be about someone stealing from the Whole Foods.

As I understand WSU cops have jurisdiction in all of Detroit and are not just limited to the Corridor. If I am wrong I would like to know.

I know they seem to do good work, but I kind of think WSU cops shouldn't have any jurisdiction...other that at WSU...

1953

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Originally Posted by 1953

I know they seem to do good work, but I kind of think WSU cops shouldn't have any jurisdiction...other that at WSU...

1953

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For what it's worth:

"All officers are sworn Peace Officers commissioned under State law and each officer has also been commissioned as a Detroit Police Officer. "

http://police.wayne.edu/

I am actually glad that someone called the police. While this may seem like a minor incident, there are regularly cases in which infants die because they are left in hot cars in the summer. In this case, the engine was left running and the air conditioning was probably on, but that is still quite negligent.

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Originally Posted by 1953

I know they seem to do good work, but I kind of think WSU cops shouldn't have any jurisdiction...other that at WSU...

1953

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Why not? They patrol areas that their students live in, and areas that are in their best interest to police. My sister goes to CMU, and often times the cops are around the off campus housing to try and stop underage drinking. If the WSU cops are in Woodbridge stopping car breakins or something such as that, what is the difference? Its in Wayne State's best interest.

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Originally Posted by Django

As I understand WSU cops have jurisdiction in all of Detroit and are not just limited to the Corridor. If I am wrong I would like to know.

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Even if that were true, they clearly don't have the resources to patrol outside of WSU's campus.

Besides that, what benefit would it have to them doing so?

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Originally Posted by 313WX

I agree with illwill.

I initially the thread would be about someone stealing from the Whole Foods.

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Interesting. My first thought was "I wonder what happened?"

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Originally Posted by 313WX

Even if that were true, they clearly don't have the resources to patrol outside of WSU's campus.

Besides that, what benefit would it have to them doing so?

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Well, students/faculty/staff not being mugged or having cars stolen for starters...

And they clearly do have the resources because they clearly do patrol outside of WSU's campus.

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Originally Posted by Django

As I understand WSU cops have jurisdiction in all of Detroit and are not just limited to the Corridor. If I am wrong I would like to know.

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Exactly, WSUPD are sworn DPD officers. they have the same jurisdiction as DPD. The only difference is that they are the elite DPD officers, all have college education and are paid more. they also are paid by WSU. Essentially theey are a precinct with different uniforms and patrol area. But a WSUPD can pull you over on 6 mile if he was out there.

They will also occasionally go out away from WSU if a WSU student is involved in something.

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Originally Posted by 313WX

I agree with illwill.

I initially the thread would be about someone stealing from the Whole Foods.

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illwill has not said why he/she thought the police were called, based on my thread title; only that my title was misleading.

You agree with illwill, and you thought there had been stealing, even though I only said the police were called.

Was there something in my thread title to cause you to think of stealing?

Why is the thread misleading, when all that I said was that the police were called to Whole Foods?

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Originally Posted by cman710

I am actually glad that someone called the police. While this may seem like a minor incident, there are regularly cases in which infants die because they are left in hot cars in the summer. In this case, the engine was left running and the air conditioning was probably on, but that is still quite negligent.

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Thank you Cman, never ever left my kids unattended though sometimes tempted. Kids are work, have them... be responsible.

How do we know they were really cops? Sometimes hard to tell these days.

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Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Interesting. My first thought was "I wonder what happened?"

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Welp, I guess my Detroiter instinct got the best of me.

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Originally Posted by noise

Well, students/faculty/staff not being mugged or having cars stolen for starters...

And they clearly do have the resources because they clearly do patrol outside of WSU's campus.

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I don't think Woodbridge counts as "outside of WSU's campus." I've never seen the WSU police at 7 Mile and Gratiot or Vernor and Junction. And again, how does WSU benefit from patrolling or responding to crimes in the aforementioned areas?

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Originally Posted by marshamusic

illwill has not said why he/she thought the police were called, based on my thread title; only that my title was misleading.

You agree with illwill, and you thought there had been stealing, even though I only said the police were called.

Was there something in my thread title to cause you to think of stealing?

Why is the thread misleading, when all that I said was that the police were called to Whole Foods?

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My thought process was the police arrived to Whole Foods in response to a robbery, or an attempted robbery, given how big of a problem shrinkage is in the city.

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Originally Posted by 313WX

Welp, I guess my Detroiter instinct got the best of me.

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NP. Living where we do, sometimes you can't help it. However, I was serious with my smart-ass comments. In today's world, WHAT was she thinking??????

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Originally Posted by 313WX

I don't think Woodbridge counts as "outside of WSU's campus." I've never seen the WSU police at 7 Mile and Gratiot or Vernor and Junction. And again, how does WSU benefit from patrolling or responding to crimes in the aforementioned areas?

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A lot of WSU students, employees and profs live in the surrounding areas. WSU probably wants safe places for its 30K population to live. It also helps for it not to be in the middle of a warzone, for recruiting purposes. Students do occasionally step foot off campus.

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Originally Posted by TexasT

A lot of WSU students, employees and profs live in the surrounding areas. WSU probably wants safe places for its 30K population to live. It also helps for it not to be in the middle of a warzone, for recruiting purposes. Students do occasionally step foot off campus.

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I don't disagree with your sentiment [[except for the part about the warzone, which I think is ill-informed hyperbole at best). I was merely responding to an earlier post that hinted the WSU should be able to respond to crimes all across the city. The department only has 54 officers [[thus limited manpower and resources), and has no reason to respond to crimes outside of WSU's campus [[and I guess I have a different definition of WSU's campus, as I lump the DMC and Woodbridge into WSU's campus), even if they have the jurisdiction to do so.

And also, I would imagine that having 54 officers patrol an area that's only 1 or 2 sq. mi. area would naturally net a much higher emergency response time, and thus lower crime rate, than having roughly 2,500 officers patrol 143 sq. mi.

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Originally Posted by 313WX

except for the part about the warzone, which I think is ill-informed hyperbole at best

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Oh jeez, lighten up. I live in the area. My point was, WSU has an interest it the area around it NOT turning into a warzone.

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Originally Posted by TexasT

Oh jeez, lighten up. I live in the area. My point was, WSU has an interest it the area around it NOT turning into a warzone.

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All college campuses have police departments, even U of M. It's not as if this is something unique to WSU. And while you're, in a passive-aggressive way, describing the areas outside of midtown/downtown in a condescending way as they fight an even tougher battle against the high rate of crime rates in their neighborhoods, keep in mind WSU wouldn't be able to do jack shit to prevent crime in Midtown if it weren't for all of the dough rolling in from its Alumni and the Federal/State Government, both of which are things these so-called war zones you refer to DON'T have the benefit of receiving.

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Originally Posted by 313WX

All college campuses have police departments, even U of M. It's not as if this is something unique to WSU. And while you're, in a passive-aggressive way, describing the areas outside of midtown/downtown in a condescending way as they fight an even tougher battle against the high rate of crime rates in their neighborhoods, keep in mind WSU wouldn't be able to do jack shit to prevent crime in Midtown if it weren't for all of the dough rolling in from its Alumni and the Federal/State Government, both of which are things these so-called war zones you refer to DON'T have the benefit of receiving.

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Um, I think you are reading things in my posts that are not there.

Never inferred that it's odd that WSU has its own police.

Never said other areas are warzones. I said WSU has an interest in its surrounding areas not being one.

You are being overly sensitive.

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Originally Posted by 313WX

I don't think Woodbridge counts as "outside of WSU's campus." I've never seen the WSU police at 7 Mile and Gratiot or Vernor and Junction. And again, how does WSU benefit from patrolling or responding to crimes in the aforementioned areas?

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Can I get a copy of 313WX's OFFICIAL WSU CAMPUS MAP?

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Originally Posted by 313WX

My thought process was the police arrived to Whole Foods in response to a robbery, or an attempted robbery, given how big of a problem shrinkage is in the city.

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Well 313WX, of course.

I too jumped to a conclusion as I encountered the scene. That is why I described - in my original post - that those of us standing by felt rather sheepish for assuming there had been a robbery, after watching the mother being questioned.

But would you agree that it was your own thought process [[and I suppose illwill's, too), rather than anything that I said in the thread title, that was "misleading"?

[Of course, leaving your little ones in the car [[one was a tiny one, a baby) is a crime too.]

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Originally Posted by marshamusic

Well 313WX, of course.

I too jumped to a conclusion as I encountered the scene. That is why I described - in my original post - that those of us standing by felt rather sheepish for assuming there had been a robbery, after watching the mother being questioned.

But would you agree that it was your own thought process [[and I suppose illwill's, too), rather than anything that I said in the thread title, that was "misleading"?

[Of course, leaving your little ones in the car [[one was a tiny one, a baby) is a crime too.]

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I will admit that I jumped to a conclusion.

That said, your thread title was vague. This is Detroit after all and you're talking about Police arriving to the first national grocery store to open in the city in nearly 5 years. So I think it was easy enough to jump to conclusions based off that.

I think WSU police go outside of WSU on occasion. I have seen them as far north as Euclid and down south by Temple.

I'm glad they come out of their said jurisdiction. Whole Foods is not trying to have an incident this early in the game I suppose. Their security at the front door are equipped with a side arm.

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Originally Posted by noise

Can I get a copy of 313WX's OFFICIAL WSU CAMPUS MAP?

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So, the introduction of "Well, it happened..." as highlighted in the DYES active threads summary was not meant to incite imagery?

Yeah, right.

I heard there was a shooting that involved someone taking a shopping cart off Whole Foods property.:rolleyes: