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Originally Posted by Zacha341

Speaking of donations I heard/ read that the US is giving aid and investment to mexico and central America. But I can't verify the source/ story.... anyone else heard about this?

10.6B aid and investment from the US to Southern Mexico

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Yes.

The story went out on the wire 2 days ago.

Here's the Associated Press version:

https://www.apnews.com/0fcda32812024680ad98676379c47233

The Washington Post take is here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.0002528d493a

A quick skim, suggests a bit less than 1/2 is 'new money', the rest being aid that was previously being provided, but had been threatened with cancellation earlier this year.

Most of the money appears to be loans or loan guarantees rather than grants/cash aid.

This is not good and the ship continues to sink. Mattis resigns. Might have been one of the only one left with brains.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/polit...out/index.html

"Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position,"

But nitwit says otherwise...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...78792168685568

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Originally Posted by rb336

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Originally Posted by Richard

I think donating to a device that could help stop global warming is a bit more productive then a bridge with no return.

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What does that statement have to do with anything???

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It still sounds like an AI experiment to me. It makes associations but isn't as finely tuned as a human to what makes sense to a human audience.

Hey, Richard! What makes you most proud about the language in which you were written?

The Turks threaten Trump directly and he caves like a house of cards in days.

The entire planet knows he will run hard and fast away from any potential international crisis now.

If the ‘high five’ heard around the world didn’t spell it out completely, tucking tail and running from the threats from Erdogan surely has.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...kurds-in-syria

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Originally Posted by Jimaz

It still sounds like an AI experiment to me. It makes associations but isn't as finely tuned as a human to what makes sense to a human audience.

Hey, Richard! What makes you most proud about the language in which you were written?

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When you consider we are dealing with Democrats that claim to be for the people but yet for the last 50 years have managed to run into the ground just about every inner city that they represent,which brings into question what people do they actually represent.

Its kinda like giving medicine to children,if you name it anything but medicine they are happy to take it.

Just like the bridge,tell somebody it is free and that is all they hear or care about.

Outside of that,I was under the impression that this was a roast Trump thread and not a Richard thread,I guess we could always ask Thom what he thinks.

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Originally Posted by aj3647

No donation in my name yet, Richard? What's the matter, can't afford it? But I thought you were a big successful business genius?

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Actually I gave 6 years 24/7 of my life in order to preserve a way of life in this country that most seem to take for granted,I walked the talk and was prepared to give my life to back it up.

I do not suppose that you would have ever even thought about it let alone be prepared to follow through with it.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

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This propaganda post brought to you via RT.

In the real world, abandoning the Kurds to ISIS would be madness and the entire military establishment is against the pullout, but cultists gonna cult. Anything to distract from their Dear Leader's impending denouement.

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So it was okay when Obama brought up pulling out of Syria and with everybody claiming we have no business being in the middle east and feeding the war machine.

But let Trump say it and all hell breaks loose.

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Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit

The Turks threaten Trump directly and he caves like a house of cards in days.

The entire planet knows he will run hard and fast away from any potential international crisis now.

If the ‘high five’ heard around the world didn’t spell it out completely, tucking tail and running from the threats from Erdogan surely has.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...kurds-in-syria

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I didn't notice any part of the article suggesting "The Turks threaten Trump directly" but maybe you read or heard something to that effect elsewhere. It's curious that a foreign news font would be critical of the removal of U.S. troops when Britain or E.U. countries don't have 2,200 troops in Syria. The Guardian would do better drumming up support for sending 2,200 British or E.U. troops to take a turn at it. Syria is more in Europe's back yard than our own.

In the last week, Trump has announced plans to remove all 2,200 troops from Syria and 7,000 troops from Afghanistan, half of all U.S. troops in Afghanistan, over a period of six months or more. That's certainly enough time for other concerned nations that choose to criticize the U.S. to bridge the gap.

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Originally Posted by Richard

Actually I gave 6 years 24/7 of my life in order to preserve a way of life in this country that most seem to take for granted,I walked the talk and was prepared to give my life to back it up.

I do not suppose that you would have ever even thought about it let alone be prepared to follow through with it.

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Just say that you're too poor donate then. The Wall needs your help, Richard. 190,000 patriots [[more patriotic than you apparently) have already given their hard-earned money. But you have better things to spend your money on? Booze? The co-pay on your oxy prescription? Sad!

But hey, thank you for your years of glorious service in the Soviet Red Army, Richard. I salute you, comrade.

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Originally Posted by Maof

This is not good and the ship continues to sink. Mattis resigns. Might have been one of the only one's left with brains.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/polit...out/index.html

"Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position,"

But nitwit says otherwise...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...78792168685568

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Oh don't worry, the Trump cultists will denigrate his 40 years of military service any second now and slandering him as a "Deep State liberal Democrat" just as soon as they receive their programmed talking points from Team Trump.

So now in the six weeks since the midterms, Trump has lost an Attorney General [[fired), a Chief of Staff [[pushed out), and a Defense Secretary [[quit in protest). WINNING!

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Originally Posted by aj3647

the Trump cultists will be denigrate his 40 years of military service any second now and slandering him as a "Deep State liberal Democrat".

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They already have. The "lunatic 'n chief" will TRY and do anything to make someone else look bad and deflect from his numbskull, idiotic, so-called presidency.

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Originally Posted by Richard

So it was okay when Obama brought up pulling out of Syria and with everybody claiming we have no business being in the middle east and feeding the war machine.

But let Trump say it and all hell breaks loose.

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You sound just like Drumpf. Consistently bringing up past administrations and fault of others. But you know what, he's the worst of the worst.

James Mattis had an exemplary career and worked well with Trump until Trump went back to his campaign pledge of reducing costly and often destructive U.S. interventionism. The Secretary of Defense resigned his position gracefully, stating his reasons for doing so. Alliances were part of defense he correctly reasoned. I agree but alliances based on the U.S. providing most or all the dirty work mean American young people are the ones getting killed. Atlas shrugged. Mattis never worked against the President. He was loyal soldier and remains so. Let's see how John Bolton and other neo-cons take Trump's move to bring our troops home. Let's see if any other foreign countries like Germany acting shocked about U.S. withdrawals from sticky places will plug in their own troops to replace Americans. Let's see if they put their own young people in harm's way as a way of upholding a strong alliance.

President Trump says U.S. troops are all being pulled out of Syria and now Neo-cons and Dems are going crazy! -Ben Swann commentary

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Originally Posted by oladub

James Mattis had an exemplary career and worked well with Trump until Trump went back to his campaign pledge of reducing costly and often destructive U.S. interventionism. The Secretary of Defense resigned his position gracefully, stating his reasons for doing so.

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Just to be clear, this is 1000% made-up garbage.

Trump, during the campaign, crowed that he would bomb the hell out of the ME and that Obama was far too wimpy re. intervention, and that he would put the generals in charge.

Also, Mattis, quite clearly, told the world yesterday that the Commander-in-Chief is a dangerous lunatic and he can't control him anymore.

^ is it a wise move for the military to control the president of the United States?

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

Just to be clear, this is 1000% made-up garbage.

Trump, during the campaign, crowed that he would bomb the hell out of the ME and that Obama was far too wimpy re. intervention, and that he would put the generals in charge.

Also, Mattis, quite clearly, told the world yesterday that the Commander-in-Chief is a dangerous lunatic and he can't control him anymore.

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According to the Dec. 19, 2018 NY Times, "Mr. Trump promised during the 2016 presidential campaign to withdraw American troops from Syria, and he has been looking for a way out since.CreditSarah Silbiger/The New York Times
Maybe you are confusing Trump's more aggressive actions against ISIS with Obama, and up to now, Trump's attempts to pressure or overthrow Assad.

I can't find where Mattis "told the world the Commander in Chief is a lunatic" in his speech let alone used the word "lunatic". Mattis was very respectful and included points they agreed with in a prior paragraph. My reading was that Mattis said they disagreed and he wanted to allow a couple of months for the President to find a more agreeable replacement. I think you are imagining things. Also, It wasn't Mattis' place to "control" the President.

You just struck out. I take it that you want to keep American troops in Syria and Afghanistan.

The House passed an Interim Bill on Thursday 217-185, INCLUDING $5 Billion for the Border Wall. Pelosi sandbagged, and hopefully Ryan will choke on it as he leaves the House “for [[our) good”.

Of course it’s still got to get through the Senate - but nobody expected it to clear the House. Fortunately McCAin is gone but there’s still a gaggle of democrats masquerading as RINO’s.

Do your best Mr. President and get us that WALL

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Originally Posted by oladub

He was loyal soldier and remains so. L

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Spin spin spin! Mattis is SO loyal to Trump that that must explain why he resigned in protest to Trump's Syrian pullout and why he felt the need to release a public letter in which he essentially says that Trump's actions run contrary to the values that Mattis held dear for 40 years as a Marine.

Read the letter oladub. Mattis, in a "diplomatic" way, calls Trump out for disrespecting our allies and being weak on Russia and China. No matter how you spin it, for a Defense Secretary to resign in protest and publicly release such a scathing letter is unparalleled and unprecedented in modern American Presidential history. We're already witnessing record levels of turnover [[Trump is now just one cabinet member away from 50% turnover in just two years).

Apply Occam's razor here, what's the more realistic explanation? That Trump is a genius who is doing amazing things and all of his own appointees are secret "Deep State" liberals working to undermine him and that's why he seemingly cannot get along with any of his own handpicked appointees? Or that a Reality TV show host-turned-President, who has lived a documented life of unbridled selfish hedonism and had zero relevant experience before taking office, might not be making good decisions and might just be a terrible President?

FYI, stock market down another 200 points today as the DJIA is poised to finish the year lower than when it started. All 2018 gains erased and the market is now clawing back gains made in 2017. Market now at a 15-month low. And the government is shutting down too. Top Administration officials fleeing at a brisk pace [[AG, Chief of Staff, now SecDef all in the span of just six weeks). WINNING! So much winning, I don't know if you guys can handle any more winning.

I believe he said he would own it a week ago:confused:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076132028888825857

This is even better...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...38140795064320

It official, he's lost his mind.

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Originally Posted by Richard

^ is it a wise move for the military to control the president of the United States?

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No, obviously, but no one suggested such idiocy.

It's an exceedingly unwise move, however, to have a sworn enemy of the U.S. controlling the President, and that's the present reality. It's also a tad scary to have a lifelong criminal grifter holding the planet's survival in the balance.

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Originally Posted by aj3647

Spin spin spin! Mattis is SO loyal to Trump that that must explain why he resigned in protest to Trump's Syrian pullout and why he felt the need to release a public letter in which he essentially says that Trump's actions run contrary to the values that Mattis held dear for 40 years as a Marine.

Read the letter oladub. Mattis, in a "diplomatic" way, calls Trump out for disrespecting our allies and being weak on Russia and China. No matter how you spin it, for a Defense Secretary to resign in protest and publicly release such a scathing letter is unparalleled and unprecedented in modern American Presidential history. We're already witnessing record levels of turnover [[Trump is now just one cabinet member away from 50% turnover in just two years).

Apply Occam's razor here, what's the more realistic explanation? That Trump is a genius who is doing amazing things and all of his own appointees are secret "Deep State" liberals working to undermine him and that's why he seemingly cannot get along with any of his own handpicked appointees? Or that a Reality TV show host-turned-President, who has lived a documented life of unbridled selfish hedonism and had zero relevant experience before taking office, might not be making good decisions and might just be a terrible President?

FYI, stock market down another 200 points today as the DJIA is poised to finish the year lower than when it started. All 2018 gains erased and the market is now clawing back gains made in 2017. Market now at a 15-month low. And the government is shutting down too. Top Administration officials fleeing at a brisk pace [[AG, Chief of Staff, now SecDef all in the span of just six weeks). WINNING! So much winning, I don't know if you guys can handle any more winning.

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The stock market has been in decline pretty much since the day after the election when it went up 500 points because it looked like Democrats won only 30 House seats and Republicans held onto the Senate.

The larger issue is whether or not our troops stay in Syria. As you know, the Commander in Chief call the shots. You apparently want our troops to stay. Why, for the stock market? Guess we won't need to replace so many weapons and patch up so many soldiers. That would be bad for the economy. Explain that to our troops' parents.

Some prankster needs to get in there and padlock the door to the Oval Office at midnight when Trump shuts down the government.

Hell, Johnny would do it. :D

Pandemonium ensues. Get photos!

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Originally Posted by Jimaz

Some prankster needs to get in there and padlock the door to the Oval Office at midnight when Trump shuts down the government.

Hell, Johnny would do it. :D

Pandemonium ensues. Get photos!

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I think Johnny could do a better job than you know who.;)

The president-who-could-have-been sets the record straight:
Trump is shutting down the government.

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Trump is shutting down the government and will leave 800,000 federal employees without paychecks—despite unanimous Republican support in the Senate and overwhelming Republican support in the House.

Clearly, this president’s erratic and impulsive behavior is a danger to our country and a major impediment in terms of addressing the crises we face.

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Defeat the Extortionist In Chief.

• OurRevolution.com

Shutting down the government does not leave anybody without a pay check.

Unless somebody can provide a link that shows while the government is shut down everybody goes into an unpaid status.

Such drama.

OurRevolution posts Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith who represented East Orlando.

Why is it always the ones that claim that they support the downtrodden always represent districts that have the most amount of downtrodden,that were not there before they started representing?

Its like they create districts like that just so they can look like their saviors.