A protest has been planned to start in a few minutes at Evergeen and Chicago, according to another news source. We'll see how that one ends up.
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Because the issue is so complex and because most episodes involving a fatality are complex, it requires time for the legal system to investigate. There is nothing wrong with protesting if one believes that there is not a proper investigation taking place or there is a cover up of some sort, but to immediately protest that there has been an injustice every time a life is taken is wrong.
Certainly. And I previously implied it was uneducated and misguided.
That said, I don't think anyone here is one of the people you described. I'm certainly not. And the much larger problem was the police here. That affects me. That affects everyone. The CVS, not so much.
The police were the catalyst. Let's address that. Maybe it'll solve the looting problem.
Hopefully those caught burning buildings and assaulting others are arrested very carefully and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Arson threatens lives and is a felony. The view that destroying cities somehow makes things right is bullshit.
I think the last thing on an arsonist's mind is whether his city will brighten up somehow after the fire.
I also think that the rioting is picture perfect for big media, and overshadows all the peaceful demonstrations that have taken place in Ferguson, Baltimore and elsewhere, sadly.
The results of investigations are not in, but there are signs of unusual force in cases where someone's spine is severed or 10 bullets are driven into them. The gun culture has to be replaced by something less sensationalistic and sexy but more rewarding in the long run, more befitting a rich, enlightened nation. Everybody is a victim in this, not the least the police, but not the most either.
I'm watching a live feed from one of those Youtube journalists and there's a marching band and some dancers near the area where that CVS caught on fire yesterday. It kind of looks like any old summer festival going on. Doesn't really seem like a protest, but it's better than the alternative. Haven't been paying attention to any mainstream news outlets.
A common misconception is that these 'mobs' are of one mind. I believe that 99% of these mobs are fine people who have serious concerns about police brutality. But like any crowd, there are a few idiots. And it only takes a few.
If you listen carefully, you'll note that it Ferguson at least there was great tension between the local protesters and some 'professional' agitators. Not everyone is there for the same reason. Some want to peacefully protest. Others want to loot and burn. And some others have political agendas.
Never understood what burning your neighborhood does. Detroit is essentially burned down.
Still, disturbances may still flare up in the suburbs-most likely Warren, Hazel Park, Oak Park, Southfield, Livonia, Inkster, Dearborn, River Rouge, Ecorse, Lincoln Park, Melvindale, Wyandotte or Pontiac.
After all, Ferguson is a suburb of Saint Louis and the 1992 Rodney King riots did spread into several Los Angeles suburbs.
It sounds like some of you actually WANT it to happen here! Me, when I hear about the racist bs the cops are pulling in some other places, it makes me grateful most Detroit police are actually pretty cool.
I have to agree with you. Our police are well trained. Shame more don't live in the city but they make their own choices. Detroit won't explode but check the burbs
So sweet, a neighbor just called, Worried our house was dark. She said we usually look like Christmas lighting. Forgot to put our porch light on. One lantern of two exterior to porch is out but need an electrian to fix. Have a good one, just waiting for the new month. Nice if our street lights worked.
Our area kids are involved in a bicyle club, a community garden and field trips to museums and community orgs with projects.
Don't ever ever ever tell me I don't have great neighbors again! Jealous maybe? Sumas
Watching "Morning Joe' on MSNBC.
They are making a big thing about the development in the Inner Harbor, downtown, etc. but what about the neighborhoods? 'Two Cities' is how they describe it: Uptown and downtown. Have and Have Nots.
Also as gentrification proceeded police action stepped up to protect the gentrified neighborhoods with aggressive policing. Aggressive policing seems to be 'in vogue' be in NYC, Baltimore, etc.
BTW, the problem in Ferguson has a very large racial component to it. Baltimore [[and Detroit) are very different. The power structure in Baltimore has very large minority component. William Donald Schaefer hasn't been mayor for decades.
Getting back to Detroit and this thread and this forum:
I do want to say that Detroit faces the same problem of a rebuilding downtown [[midtown) but still tremendous problems in the neighborhoods. There are a LOT of parallels.
Couple other thoughts:
1). Since the 2008 Great Recession the recovery has been very uneven. Most of corporate America and folks who have [[financial) skin in the monied game [[financial markets) have thrived. But the urban neighborhoods have not. They 'thrive' on good jobs, not a strong stock market.
2). Lot of talk these days about factories which USED to be in Baltimore. [[We can say that about Detroit, Camden, etc.). S&P hits a new high [[#1 above). Manufacturing employment hit lows in this recession.
3). In the 1990s, President Clinton championed community policing. Crime declined greatly in the 90s. Maybe community policing [[small part?) Strong economy?
4). [[since I'm 'on a roll'): Detroit needs to make automotive parts, helmets, etc. Anything job which gives a person looking for a job a chance to have a decent job [[and I hope these jobs pay a fair wage).
5). [[still rolling): If the state and country would rebuild its infrastructure [[e.g., roads and bridges, for starters) it could create hundreds of thousands of good paying job. Give a man [[or woman) a good job building/rebuilding roads, your car a better [[smooth) ride, your neighborhood a neighbor who has the $ to keep up his house, etc. etc.
Rather than read my general thoughts, an excellent, detailed article referenced on "Morning Joe" by Tim Swift of BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32499923
So the majority black Baltimore police force is now "racist"?
Baltimore's police force is as black as that of Detroit, and it's power structure is blacker. There may or may not be police misconduct in Baltimore, but it has nothing to do with racism. It's a black city, just like Detroit.
What a dumb article. Who knew that Baltimore had a black underclass? Gee, that obviously makes Baltimore totally unique in the American urban context.
And riots don't correlate with poverty. Hispanics and poorer and far more numerous than African Americans, yet there is no comparable Hispanic unrest. Detroit had the worst 20th century riots, yet the wealthiest black community [[at the time), and was headed by a progressive technocratic mayor in a city where there was [[at the time) a very high degree of black economic mobility.
Are you kidding me? Haven't all of the riots been in poor areas? [[the correlation is strong, in statistical terms, it would be point-bi-serial, correlating two variables, e.g, income/wealth which is continuous ranging from poverty to wealth and the other dichotomous, riot or no riot.
So 'every' riot has been in a relatively poor city and none in an affluent area.
Have there been riots in Birmingham? Grosse Pointe? Bloomfield Hills? [[and hundreds of other affluent areas across America).
I remember the 1967 Detroit riots, they didn't happen in the most affluent parts of Detroit. [[I wanted to drive 'near' the scene and was told by a Michigan State Police to get the hell out of here). [yes, I was young and dumb].
So 'every' riot has been in a relatively poor city and none in an affluent area.