^ Yowsers! Well great for the bumble bees - which need to be encouraged to thrive.
^ Yowsers! Well great for the bumble bees - which need to be encouraged to thrive.
If I lived in one of those,I could literally tell you to get off my grass.
Buildings are constructed in order to combat the forces of nature,some of the low impact greenery would be okay,but a lot of the larger stuff is incorporating the forces of nature into the construction.
Long term we will see,but all it would take is one rogue root to undermine the structural integrity of some of those buildings,not to mention,buildings need to breath and you need to control moisture.
I find no argument with urban green space,to me these are a form of public art displays,just cause you can it does not make it practical long term.
In this case,the factory that it replaced,was more beneficial to the community.
The trees are a disaster waiting to happen,the root ball is contained in a small diameter,with a tall tree,the wind will have the leverage of a storm rolls through,let alone the safety nightmare of trimming them.
Most move into those buildings so they do not have to deal with a yard in the first place.
Rooftop gardens and landscaping has been around forever,these extremes are experiments in pushing the envelope where negative results will come at a high price.
The Park Royal Collection,Personally I would not even walk under that thing,one column gets undermined,the rest falls.
From lazyboy critic to structural engineer in 1 post! You make fast work there guy. The dead loads of saturated ground, mature trees and the factor of safety is fully baked into structural calcs. The fact that you rail on the slenderness of the Park Hotel's columns means the structural engineer + architects have done their job in deploying the structural systems so that it doesn't distract from the overall design aesthetic. That's a win from the client's perspective.
Sense I was a licensed home builder/contractor then it would stand to reason I would have an understanding of structural integrity.
You apparently have the same knowledge sense you seem to find it acceptable to correct others,I would hate to think that you would be condoning others over sometime that you had no clue about.
The condo towers that recently collapsed in Florida ,did so after 1 column collapsed,a column that was directly below landscaping planters that were located directly above and were leaking water that was hidden from view.
If they were Khan designed,then I would not question,but in todays world every item is included in the structural integrity and the failure of one item creates a domino effect.
That is why you see factory’s still standing 100 years later while 30 year old buildings fall to the ground.
Why did you feel it was necessary to come at me like you did? You could have simply responded without the silly attempt to discredit me while making yourself look stupid in the process.
There is no law in this country,as of yet that says everybody has to like everything,if I do not like it,I do not like it,if that offended you,that’s your problem.
Structural engineers calculate the load bearing on apartment balconies but yet they collapse all of the time,because they can only calculate on paper non real world scenarios.
Do you really think they took a tree and planted it,weighed it to determine the load calculations between dry soil verses wet soil and recorded all of that through the life growth of the tree?
I dealt with 150-200 mph wind codes,compared to your 80 mph,heck of a big difference,we do that not because we expect that,we do it because when it happens we are prepared for it.
It is expensive because there are alot of redundant systems in place,a majority of buildings built today are engineered down to the last penny,no room for redundancy and cost calculations dictate that every little item installed is dependent in the one next to it. You cannot remove one without effecting everything else in the design.
Is your animosity really because you are looking to gain support in order for every city to require new construction to look like it was dropped in out of the jungle,and you feel that my personal thoughts on that were a direct threat to your cause?
With weed legal I could build a high rise in downtown Detroit,my vertical landscaping would be weed,the tenants would be supplied with free pot in exchange for maintenance on the plants.
The profits of the weed puts money in my pocket,the collected rents pays for the building,I could make millions with no overhead or labor costs,I see potential in all of that.
Structural engineers catch phrase- It met current design structural load standards at the time of this submission,based on current available information.
So they could design load calculations for the balcony base on 6 plants weighing X amount and two humans weighing 160 lbs.
So over time,everybody adds more plants,and invites 4 friends over that weigh 250 pounds,balcony falls off,you go back to sue the engineers and they tell you - remember that catch phrase that is written on the contract,sorry about you luck.
Engineers design and sign off on things that fail all of the time,what is your point?
living in a car manufacturing city,you should at the very least understand that.
Some of the best engineers in the world designed a space shuttle that blew up,looked good on paper,the real world is different,most engineers are incapable of building or assembling anything they design if they could,thegg to would not be designing things the way they do.
Book smart means nothing if you unable to actually apply it.
Professional engineers designed the Titanic to be unsinkable,but then again they were not on it when it sank.
Whether or not this building actually comes to fruition in Windsor, the idea of planting some trees and shrubs on building is hardly new.
The most typical variation is either a roof garden or a grade-level park-type space sitting atop a parking garage.
In some cases these have only low-lying vegetation, in other cases large trees may be used.
Its been done successfully many times.
With respect to the vegetation being up the side of a building.....in non-tree form, I would note that many older Universities are in the U.S. are called 'Ivy League' for a reason. As in Ivy grows up the side of many of their oldest and prettiest buildings.
Trees are certainly more of a challenge.
Structurally supporting the weight isn't hard, though it costs some $, likewise irrigation is straight-forward.
The more challenging bits include protecting the building structure, very do-able, just a design question; anchoring the roots of taller vegetation to prevent it being up-ended in high winds, and having a proper maintenance program to make sure no large branches fall to the ground.
All of that can be addressed, but certainly not every building wants to address those challenges.
This is one that's just been proposed for Toronto's new Quayside neighbourhood.
https://waterfrontoronto.ca/nbe/wcm/...ng?MOD=AJPERES