Lincoln Park Husband & Dad Deported to Mexico after Living in the US for 30 Years

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After living in the U.S. for 30 years, Jorge Garcia, from Lincoln Park, was deported this morning from Metro Airport to Mexico. Escorted by ICE agents, he said goodbye to wife and 2 children before boarding the plane.

He was brought to U.S. when he was 10 years old -- too old to qualify for DACA. His wife and two children are U.S. citizens.

After 30 years in U.S., 39 Year-Old Metro Detroit Immigrant Deported to Mexico
https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...on/1033296001/

"His supporters say he has no criminal record — not even a traffic ticket — and pays taxes every year."

"But because of the Trump administration's immigration crackdown, Garcia was ordered in November to return to Mexico."

"Garcia said he had asked ICE if they could wait until new DACA legislation is passed, which might expand the age range for immigrants to qualify. But, he said, they refused and said he had to leave by Jan. 15."

"Garcia's case is the latest example of immigrants who previously would have been allowed to remain in the U.S., but not now as the U.S. seeks to remove more immigrants."

"Garcia went through security as supporters around him held up signs that read, “Stop Separating Families.”"

These type stories make me sad. There should have been legislation and policies in place for people like this man years ago. Ironically there were a lot of Mid-Easterns and Latinos who voted for Trump, I betcha they have voter's remorse.

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Originally Posted by Chicago48

Ironically there were a lot of Mid-Easterns and Latinos who voted for Trump, I betcha they have voter's remorse.

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Uh, you could say the exact same thing about Obama.
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Idiotic, and disgusting waste of resources, but this is what the Trump cultists love.

As long as Trump is destroying the lives of black and Hispanic families, the cult will remain loyal. White-Supremacist-in-Chief is doing his best to make non-redneck Americans as miserable as possible before his inevitable removal.

If his wife is a US Citizen, how does he not have legal status?

And not one mention of who employed this man for 30 years.

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Originally Posted by Bong-Man

And not one mention of who employed this man for 30 years.

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I seriously doubt he was working as a 9-year-old.

And I don't see the relevance, unless you're actively seeking to destroy more families.

He can be legally married in the eyes of the state but not immigration.

He would have had to leave,pay the $2500 fine on exit,then go through the process,you have to meet your love in their country,have documented records of those visits,apply for a fiancé visa which then gives you permission to marry and apply for citizenship.

Pretty much a five year process,unless you have cash and then $25,000 to $50,000 buys papers in a round about way.

Even at that we still have the most screwed up immigration process but easiest compared to other countries,it is more of a business revenue generator.

Immigration does not view the separation of families as an inconvenience because military families are separated for extended periods of time and most cases the only person that can override the decision is the US attorney general himself.

If he was married and self deported,paid the fine he could have been back in under a year leagly,now he is out with a 10 year re-entry ban before he can even reapply.

If he would have self deported in November as ordered he could have reapplied immediately,now it will be impossible.

Totaly pointless to be yelling at ICE,they are doing what taxpayers pay them to do,their job.

The energy needs to be directed to the US attorney general which is pretty much the only single person that can institute change.

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Originally Posted by Chicago48

These type stories make me sad. There should have been legislation and policies in place for people like this man years ago. Ironically there were a lot of Mid-Easterns and Latinos who voted for Trump, I betcha they have voter's remorse.

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How about Obama and Dems people? They had 8 years to put something in place, and just kicked the can down the road. Now they're going to blame this on Trump and his Reps, and people are going to put the same people back in office that caused this in the first place. That being said, something needs to be put in place for people like Mr. Garcia.

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Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

How about Obama and Dems people? They had 8 years to put something in place, and just kicked the can down the road.

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That's not true. For 8 years, Obama worked on immigration reform, and the Republicans stonewalled the whole way. There would be a plan if not for a few hardcore nativists.

You can blame Obama for not ramming it through before healthcare [[when he had the votes, before losing Congress), but the previous administration always pushed for a reform package.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

That's not true. For 8 years, Obama worked on immigration reform, and the Republicans stonewalled the whole way. There would be a plan if not for a few hardcore nativists.

You can blame Obama for not ramming it through before healthcare [[when he had the votes, before losing Congress), but the previous administration always pushed for a reform package.

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If that was the case then how come the deportation of convicted felons ramped up,even some that were convicted 30 years ago.

He issued executive orders for everything else,the only difference between now and then is that he did it quietly without fanfare.

It was easier during his tenure because it was known to relax and the adverage person could buy a marriage for $1500 without fear of prosecution.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

That's not true. For 8 years, Obama worked on immigration reform, and the Republicans stonewalled the whole way. There would be a plan if not for a few hardcore nativists.

You can blame Obama for not ramming it through before healthcare [[when he had the votes, before losing Congress), but the previous administration always pushed for a reform package.

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If stonewalling means not agreeing, then I suppose you're right.

From the other side, an amnesty was not an acceptable proposal. You may disagree, but its not an unreasonable position, nor is it racist.

As to this fine gentlemen, after 30 years, he didn't know that he needed to 'self deport'? Conyers doesn't provide immigration help for families that tells them their rights?

Mr. Garcia didn't have access to the public library to research immigration rules? Mrs. Garcia can't move to Mexico so the family can stay together?

This story is sad. And it would be better if it didn't happen this way. But jumping to partisan conclusions doesn't help.

Mr. Garcia had options over the last 30 years. He knew he was here illegally. I'm all for improvements to our immigration laws, but I do respect that all nations need to define and protect citizenship, as a basic right.

I was going to comment, but there's no use trying to talk to Trump supporters without it reverting to prepubescent name calling.

Good luck to you Mr. Garcia. I hope everything works out for you and your family.

The Mexican Father had been living the U.S. illegally. Do you know what happen if you sneak your way into another nation illegally? The government comes in and deport you back.

It's unfair but this is now most nations deal with uninvited guests.

Now Grumpy Trump wants to Great Wall of Trump and turn Hispanic dreamers into Hispanic nightmares.

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Originally Posted by mikeg19

I was going to comment, but there's no use trying to talk to Trump supporters without it reverting to prepubescent name calling.

Good luck to you Mr. Garcia. I hope everything works out for you and your family.

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And this is why,infrastructure,inner city schools,mass transit,immigration etc will never change.

It is not a bipartisan issiue,it is an American issue,It is the fault of Trump and his supporters,it is Richards fault,there we go we fixed it,see how easy it is.

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Originally Posted by Danny

The Mexican Father had been living the U.S. illegally. Do you know what happen if you sneak your way into another nation illegally? The government comes in and deport you back.

It's unfair but this is now most nations deal with uninvited guests.

Now Grumpy Trump wants to Great Wall of Trump and turn Hispanic dreamers into Hispanic nightmares.

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In Mexico it is automatic jail time and a not so nice place either.

I know I feel a lot safer now that we have used our limited resources to depart a hard-working family man. Most likely a Catholic; lets get rid of them.

Personally, I think we should investigate Melania's reported violation of her visa during her "modeling" years when she was taking jobs away from U.S. citizens. Perhaps deport her back to her Slavic country. Ironically, the Slavic countries were considered shitholes by our nativist purists not that long ago. Due to the hue of their skin that is no longer the case.

Do any of you nativists actually have first hand knowledge of our immigration system? My partner and I helped an immigrant friend about 18 years ago when things were much easier. His half-sister [[who had an American father) and his parents were naturalized citizens. He made a minor slip-up [[nothing criminal just some reporting confusion) when here on a student visa and it literally took us years, thousands of dollars, and a top-notch immigration lawyer to navigate the system. Its not like it was when your grandparents or great-grandparents hopped on a boat in Europe, arrived here broke and stifled their coughs at Ellis Island to appear healthy.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

You can blame Obama for not ramming it through before healthcare [[when he had the votes, before losing Congress), but the previous administration always pushed for a reform package.

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Glad you brought up the ACA. He could've rammed THAT through too when he had the chance, but instead played around with politics and singing Cum Ba Ya, and came up with something unsustainable. He did take some cute photos with children. I voted for him twice.

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Originally Posted by Danny

The Mexican Father had been living the U.S. illegally. Do you know what happen if you sneak your way into another nation illegally? The government comes in and deport you back.

It's unfair but this is now most nations deal with uninvited guests.

Now Grumpy Trump wants to Great Wall of Trump and turn Hispanic dreamers into Hispanic nightmares.

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But at his age, it wasn't his fault. That's what you Trumpers do not understand. Have some compassion for your fellow man.

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Originally Posted by Zads07

But at his age, it wasn't his fault. That's what you Trumpers do not understand. Have some compassion for your fellow man.

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compassion has nothing to do with it,millions have spent $5000 plus and waited the 5 years to go through the process,what do you tell them?

Sorry for your luck,next time try just jumping the border.

You cannot tell one group to follow the laws while telling another to disregard them.

If you are in this country illegally you are aware of that and know you are on borrowed time and your life circumstances can change in a matter of seconds,that is not some hidden fact.

I know some that came to this country illegally and still went through the process,some it took over 15 years to complete it but they are now US citizens,if someone has been here 15 years past the age of 18 but has done nothing to engage in the process,whose fault is that?

As soon as one starts the process they are exempted from deportation.

Unfortunately, we are stuck with Trump because his grandfather was deported back to the U.S. by Bavaria, to which he had returned. Seems he didn't want to be an American. After it was discovered that he had left Bavaria at age 16 to avoid military service, they didn't want him in Bavaria and revoked his Bavarian citizenship, sending him packing for the U.S. I guess getting a doctor to write a note for "bone spurs" was not an option at the time, so he had to avoid service the old-fashioned way, by fleeing. His Richie Rich grandson had more options. Immigration can take odd historical twists.

Mommy of course came as an economic refuge from Scotland, but now only the best and brightest well educated are wanted. Unless on a work visa to clean and cook at Mar-a-Lago, where Americans need not apply.

Lol,yep it is all his fault because he snuck everybody across the border 30 years ago.

Immigration policies have changed in the last 60 years,You understand right.

1920s people were being deported under immigration violations no different then today.

Yes, it was can kicked. Correct me if I am wrong but sad as this story is did the gentleman not have ample time to start the process to become a US citizen?? If you are illegal you should not be able to go to the front of the line of becoming a citizen but you do have to get in line, at some point where that is applicable.

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Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

How about Obama and Dems people? They had 8 years to put something in place, and just kicked the can down the road. Now they're going to blame this on Trump and his Reps, and people are going to put the same people back in office that caused this in the first place. That being said, something needs to be put in place for people like Mr. Garcia.

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Originally Posted by mikeg19

I was going to comment, but there's no use trying to talk to Trump supporters without it reverting to prepubescent name calling.

Good luck to you Mr. Garcia. I hope everything works out for you and your family.

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So so very true! Similar to trying talking to someone and you CANNOT get a word in edgewise because they like to hear themselves talk.

The blame lies with all the past administrations that looked the other way and continually refused to enforce our immigration laws. Clinton, Bush I&II and Obama and even before that. All of them intentionally ignored this issue because they didn't want to rock the boat, wanted the votes, the cheap labor or all of the above.

The United States welcomes more legal immigrants than any other nation on this planet and the numbers aren't even close. More than 1 million every year and the vast majority of those are people of color. Yet somehow enforcing any immigration law is "racist" and we should just look the other way while millions cut in line by sneaking in the back doors?

I have one question for those that think we should continue to ignore our immigration laws. Where do we draw the line?

If we allow those that were eligible for DACA to stay then people like Mr. Garcia just miss out. What about the parent's of those young illegal immigrants? We give amnesty to a 38 year old Mr. Garcia and soon the media will again be running stories about how we'll be tearing apart his family if we deport his parents as well. It's a never ending lack of enforcement where we make an exception for one, and then we're called out for not doing the same for the next. Where does it stop?