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DetroitYES Forums https://www.detroityes.com/mb/ en Sat, 26 May 2018 07:15:14 GMT vBulletin 60 https://www.detroityes.com/mb/images/misc/rss.png DetroitYES Forums https://www.detroityes.com/mb/ Detroit: Become Human... https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23275-Detroit-Become-Human&goto=newpost Fri, 25 May 2018 18:42:01 GMT ...is a video adventure game (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_game) being released today. Players go on adventures in a future Detroit...
...is a video adventure game being released today.

Players go on adventures in a future Detroit with plenty of touches to the past.

It is getting good reviews in the gaming world according to this Free Press article.

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FCA - hiccup -cough - sputter https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23274-FCA-hiccup-cough-sputter&goto=newpost Fri, 25 May 2018 15:26:28 GMT In their enthusiasm to go balls out forward high speed -- a glitch - a speed bump - *Fiat Chrysler recalls 4.8M vehicles* Fiat Chrysler...
In their enthusiasm to go balls out forward high speed
-- a glitch - a speed bump -

Fiat Chrysler recalls 4.8M vehicles

Fiat Chrysler recalled 4.8 million vehicles over a potential defect
that could prevent a driver from canceling cruise control
under normal circumstances, CNBC says.
The carmaker warned drivers of 14 Jeep, Ram, Chrysler and Dodge
models built from 2014 to 2018 not to use the feature unless
vehicles have been inspected.
The recall is one of the biggest ever in the U.S.
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More East of Downtown Residential Rising - 1200 Units - Shapero Hall Falling https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23273-More-East-of-Downtown-Residential-Rising-1200-Units-Shapero-Hall-Falling&goto=newpost Fri, 25 May 2018 14:47:03 GMT
Remember the days when just one of these projects would have garnered a week's worth of excited discussion here?


  • Developers share details of five projects in the area
  • Total of more than 1,200 new residential units and retail planned
  • Joe Muer restaurant and Friends School sites among those to be redeveloped


Full Crain's Detroit Business article here.


The biggest news among these projects, in terms of changes to the visual landscape and skyline, is the announcement of plans to demolish Shapero Hall, the former WSU Pharmacy Department of which owner Dennis Kefallinos had made a half-assed start on residential conversion.

Here is a backside picture I took in 2008 when Kefallinos was using it as a billboard for his Russell Industrial Center's Russell Bazaar. Shapero Hall is, to my taste, rather utilitarian in design and not of architectural significance. So I think few tears will be shed over its demise.

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It appears the architects are riffing on the nearby Mies Vander Rohe styles for the new buildings.

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Detroit Hardware closing. https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23272-Detroit-Hardware-closing&goto=newpost Thu, 24 May 2018 20:02:24 GMT
If anyone wants to see a real hardware store before they're all gone,... mno better example than Detroit Hardware, on the S.WE. corner of Woodward And Milwaukee.

They're closing up mid June.

They've been there since 1924. Plank wood floors. A mechanical machine for writing 2-part receipts.

I have a business that's had an account there for at least the last 60 years. Perhaps 90 or better. Gonna miss the place.

The people working there were simply in the mood to retire, or at least take a vacation,.. and some individual (not Gilbert) came and offered to buy the whole building.
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Planet Fitness downtown? https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23271-Planet-Fitness-downtown&goto=newpost Thu, 24 May 2018 19:52:24 GMT What ever happened to the plane on opening a Planet Fitness on Woodbridge off the riverfront?
What ever happened to the plane on opening a Planet Fitness on Woodbridge off the riverfront?
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<![CDATA[Detroit's Population -- declining more slowly]]> https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23270-Detroit-s-Population-declining-more-slowly&goto=newpost Thu, 24 May 2018 19:51:02 GMT
These are estimates, and I'm not sure how the estimates work in the new development downtown.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ows/634577002/

I agree 100% with this quote from the Mayor

At this point its about the schools, Duggan said. We have got to create a city where families want to raise their children and have them go to the schools.

The improvement of DPS, or the creation of other options for parents of young children, are an imperative if the city wants to continue to grow. Young residents will bite the bullet on many things, but sending their kids to bad schools is simply not one of them.



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Coleman Young turns 100: Some of his wildest quotes https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23269-Coleman-Young-turns-100-Some-of-his-wildest-quotes&goto=newpost Thu, 24 May 2018 15:10:10 GMT
The legend lives on on this his 100th birthdate. Love'm or hate'm he was colorful and crusty.

Sampling from today's Freep:
Coleman A. Young-isms:

Warning: Explicit language.

On dreams:
"And we have to reach high. Maybe get knocked on our ass. And then get up and reach again."

On looking out for Number One:
"I never looked upon myself as a do-gooder because a do-gooder is someone who, out of a sense of noblesse oblige or some kind of shit like that, that reaches up and pulls some poor benighted sonofabitch and does good for him. What I've done is in my own self-interest. It serves to validate my own personal sense of worth and dignity as a black person, as a poor person, a person of working class origins."

On whether Gov. James Blanchard might grow in office, as former Gov. William Milliken did (1986)
"You don't grow balls. Either you got 'em or you don't."

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SW Detroit infrastructure improvements https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23268-SW-Detroit-infrastructure-improvements&goto=newpost Thu, 24 May 2018 13:54:34 GMT LINK (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20180523/news/661576/business-heavy-mexicantown-avenue-to-be-remade-as-shared-street) ---Quote--- ...
LINK

Quote:

  • City of Detroit laid out three-year plan to transform southwest's West Vernor corridor
  • $2.4 million slated for improvements to Clark Park
  • Part of wide efforts to strengthen walkability, infrastructure in neighborhoods







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Gilbert Scores $618 Million Brownfield Credit from MI Strategic fund https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23267-Gilbert-Scores-618-Million-Brownfield-Credit-from-MI-Strategic-fund&goto=newpost Wed, 23 May 2018 16:30:36 GMT
Earned? Deserved? He has after all transformed Downtown Detroit but, sheesh, that's a lot of money--$60 for every man, woman and child in Michigan--maybe now more than Ilitch's total.

"The Michigan Strategic Fund on Tuesday approved about $618 million in brownfield incentives for $2.14 billion in Dan Gilbert projects in downtown Detroit.

It's the first time the state has approved such incentives, which were put into place following passage of a law enacted last year that allows the capture of certain taxes to help bolster development in Michigan communities.

  • It's the first tax break awarded under the state's new transformational brownfield incentive law
  • Incentives are for $2.14 billion in downtown Detroit projects
  • Projects include Hudson's site, Monroe Blocks, Book Tower and building

Quoted from Crain's Detroit Business--Full article here. [<- Edit* broken link now fixed. Thanks Egrant]

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Pay for rain - or drinking water https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23266-Pay-for-rain-or-drinking-water&goto=newpost Wed, 23 May 2018 16:30:32 GMT At most , only 20% of the water in a home is used for drinking, and another 20% for bathing/showering. The other 20% goes to the toilet, with the...
At most , only 20% of the water in a home is used for drinking, and another 20% for bathing/showering. The other 20% goes to the toilet, with the rest used for washing, dishwater, watering the lawn and washing the car.

People seem to "want" to pay for drinking water,
but hate the idea that all the RainWater from the sky
has to go somewhere , and involves even more money $$$$$$

The idea of paying more , for rain runoff,
rubs many the wrong way, but it's a huge issue.

Approximately 770 communities across the United States have combined sewer systems. When rainwater is excessive and overwhelms the capacity of the old systems, the combined wastewater and stormwater, gets minimal treatment and is released directly into adjoining bodies of water.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates between 1.8 million – and 3.5 million people, per year, become ill from recreational contact, such as swimming, with water contaminated by overflows of sewers, which carry sewage to wastewater treatment plants.

Metro Beach is nice during the sunshine - which everyone enjoys - right after it rains hard for a few days, causing combined sewer overflows into the Clinton River - primarily from 12TownsDrain in OaklandCounty. Those cities like Royal Oak, Berkley, Clawson, Madison Heights do not have a true , real, WWTP of their own in Oakland County.
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Your leaders north of 8 mile are idiots https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23265-Your-leaders-north-of-8-mile-are-idiots&goto=newpost Wed, 23 May 2018 00:01:45 GMT * L. Brooks Patterson and Mark Hackel begin push for SMART property tax renewal * Hackel warns millage renewal in Macomb County at risk because of...
  • L. Brooks Patterson and Mark Hackel begin push for SMART property tax renewal
  • Hackel warns millage renewal in Macomb County at risk because of ongoing debate over RTA
  • Suburban leaders are at odds with Detroit, Wayne County plans


http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20180522/news/661416/oakland-macomb-leaders-abandon-regional-transit-authority-in-favor-of
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Majestic Renovation https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23264-Majestic-Renovation&goto=newpost Tue, 22 May 2018 20:42:28 GMT The Majestic Theatre is getting a major overhaul. New facade, marquee, expanded interior theatre, box office and restored ceiling! I wonder...
The Majestic Theatre is getting a major overhaul.

New facade, marquee, expanded interior theatre, box office and restored ceiling!

I wonder what the old marquee used to look like.

https://www.freep.com/story/entertai...medium=twitter
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Parting words from L Brooks.....Nasty as he wants to be..... https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23263-Parting-words-from-L-Brooks-Nasty-as-he-wants-to-be&goto=newpost Tue, 22 May 2018 16:18:10 GMT Lewis Brooks Patterson says he will retire on Dec. 31, 2020. He will take his belongings, his 40l(k) and wheel himself home to his suburban...
Lewis Brooks Patterson says he will retire on Dec. 31, 2020. He will take his belongings, his 40l(k) and wheel himself home to his suburban condominium where he will watch his grandchildren play from his deck.

"Seven terms as the Oakland County Executive is enough," he told me the other evening at a restaurant on the northern edge of the county, fresh from a political chicken dinner where he received a standing ovation. "I don't want to be carried out on my shield wearing a dirty diaper. There's nothing glorious about that."

http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/artic...l#.WwRCF0gvzIV

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Grocery Store Redistributors https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23262-Grocery-Store-Redistributors&goto=newpost Mon, 21 May 2018 21:49:18 GMT
How come when you know you don't want something at the grocery store, you pick it up anyway, put it in your cart, ride it around the store, then just dump it in the checkout aisle? It's not a big deal when it is an item that can keep at room temperature, however, it is an issue when it is something that should be refrigerated.

Today I'm standing in the checkout aisle patiently waiting in line when I spot a package of hot dogs just sitting out on the candy display. I touch the package and it is as warm as a chair someone just sat in. All day long those hot dogs sat there spoiling, and for what? Why was that necessary? The person who put those hot dogs there knew they didn't want them, they could have just left them in the refrigerated section of the store.

My cousin used to always tell me there are employees at the store that are paid to put things back where they go. That's exactly what concerns me. Some store employee will come along, put those hot dogs back where they belong, and some unsuspecting customer will come along and buy them and get sick.

There is no way to tell if the food you're buying was sitting out at room temperature the day before you bought it. I just don't understand what satisfaction people get out of doing this. Maybe one of you could explain this phenomenon to me.

Okay, that's my rant for the day. See ya later, alligators!
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<![CDATA[Does anyone remember "Jama Jola?" / Did Detroit invent sliced pickles?]]> https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?23261-Does-anyone-remember-quot-Jama-Jola-quot-Did-Detroit-invent-sliced-pickles&goto=newpost Mon, 21 May 2018 18:55:07 GMT Its been a long time since I posted in here- and its great to be back! This is kind of a long post, but worth it. So I was home recently (I...
Its been a long time since I posted in here- and its great to be back! This is kind of a long post, but worth it.

So I was home recently (I moved to Washington DC a few years ago), and I was talking to my great uncle who was telling my cousin and I some great stories about my great grandfather.

Apparently when he moved here from Greece, he brought his jam-making skills with him and would make jams to sell to all of the restaurants that were owned/run by Greeks.

Over time, he would ask the restaurant owners what other condiments and things they needed, and ended up supplying places with things like pop, pickles, I think ketchup and mustard, as well as his signature jams. His company was called "Jama Jola".

Has anyone ever heard of this company before? Does anyone remember any of their products?

Also- he went on to tell us this funny story about this one restaurant owner who would buy pickles from him, and count how many were in each jar. He confronted my great grandfather and said, "Last week your jar had 37, this week its only 36!"

My grandfather tried to explain to him that he sells by weight not by pickle, but the restaurateur would have none of it. So the next week, he thought, "I'll show him," and sliced all of the pickles before delivering them, thinking, "lets see him count THAT".

The restaurant owner, rather than be annoyed, like the pre-sliced pickles, and insisted on ordering them like that from then on.

My uncle says that he might have been the first to sell pickles that way. Is there any way to verify something like that?

Regardless- I thought it was a fun story you all would appreciate.
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