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Old December 17th, 2009, 06:03 PM
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Shepard Smith, Fox News

What do you think? I think he's absolutely right.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...roblem-detroit
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Old December 17th, 2009, 06:11 PM
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I think he wears too much makeup.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 06:31 PM
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I was wondering when this was going to end up on DYes.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 06:34 PM
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"Shepard Smith said the following during the Fox News pogram 'Studio B''...

Seems as though the writer of the story didn't go to a very good school, either.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 06:43 PM
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"Shepard Smith said the following during the Fox News pogram 'Studio B''...

Seems as though the writer of the story didn't go to a very good school, either.
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I also chuckled when I saw "pogrom" misspelled.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM
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"Shepard Smith said the following during the Fox News pogram 'Studio B''...

Seems as though the writer of the story didn't go to a very good school, either.
Maybe the writer graduated from DPS!
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Old December 17th, 2009, 07:23 PM
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I also chuckled when I saw "pogrom" misspelled.
I didn't chuckle, but we can chalk that up to either temperament or intellect. Speaking of pogroms, the most oppressed race in human history offers a useful object lesson. The poorest Jewish immigrant family in New York's Lower East Side struggled and scraped to make sure that their kids could at least have piano lessons. Fast-forward to Detroit. Any parent, even in this town, should be able to help their kids understand fourth-grade math. As far as the teachers are concerned? Let's not go there.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 08:08 PM
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This whole 'testing' regime, and the whole 'education' system imposed on Detroit is nothing but a tool of white opression designed and intended to keep blacks from their rightful wealth, power and control while the suburban white power elites continue to bleed the life out of black youth. God bless the DFT for what they are able to do under this yoke of facist enslavement and exploitation
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Old December 17th, 2009, 08:22 PM
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^ blksoul_x, is that you?
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Old December 17th, 2009, 08:32 PM
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This whole 'testing' regime, and the whole 'education' system imposed on Detroit is nothing but a tool of white opression designed and intended to keep blacks from their rightful wealth, power and control while the suburban white power elites continue to bleed the life out of black youth. God bless the DFT for what they are able to do under this yoke of facist enslavement and exploitation
yep. all them black teachers i see on the news when they talk about the schools doing this or the students doing that are all uncle toms deliberately not teaching the youth how to do multiplication and division so that they will be dumb poor black slaves for us white masters. are you out of your freaking mind? i mean really? oh really? you need to stay off the prozac and get on with seeing things for what they really are. there isnt ONE white member of the detroit school board. any white teacher who attempted this kind of crap would be castigated by the media and hung out to dry. youre one screwed up individual thats for damned sure...
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Old December 17th, 2009, 09:49 PM
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This whole 'testing' regime, and the whole 'education' system imposed on Detroit is nothing but a tool of white opression designed and intended to keep blacks from their rightful wealth, power and control while the suburban white power elites continue to bleed the life out of black youth. God bless the DFT for what they are able to do under this yoke of facist enslavement and exploitation
You made a knucklehead comment on the Hurlbut Gate thread too. Sounds like you have an axe to grind.
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Old December 17th, 2009, 09:55 PM
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Let's grind it.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:17 AM
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His comment was in no way constructive or of any positive value. It is not at all unsurprising; look who he works for, and what passes for cable "news", these days across the board. Mayhaps, he wouldn't find it so funny if someone joked about burning down his inherently trashy and laughable network which hasn't reported actual news since its birth, and whose viewers don't even believe their silly motto.

But, that's about where all of this ends. At the end of the day, he's a dime-a-dozen talking head, and a reported diva, at that, and one with a history of being emotionally unstable. This is not at all out of character for him.

So...Meh.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:32 AM
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For some reason the words FIRE....DETROIT.....GUNS....CHILDREN....APATHY.... IGNORANCE....ILLITERACY....MURDER
seem to come together in describing current events in our town. And no matter how reprehensible Shepard Smith's comments are, he had nothing to do with them.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 01:03 AM
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I didn't chuckle, but we can chalk that up to either temperament or intellect. Speaking of pogroms, the most oppressed race in human history offers a useful object lesson. The poorest Jewish immigrant family in New York's Lower East Side struggled and scraped to make sure that their kids could at least have piano lessons. Fast-forward to Detroit. Any parent, even in this town, should be able to help their kids understand fourth-grade math. As far as the teachers are concerned? Let's not go there.
Haha! So your intellect makes you so much better, eh smudge pot? Well, I caught it and I'm a proud DPS graduate. Cooley HS. Go Cardinals! You use one ambiguous example to define a race? Whether the example is positive or negative, that's ridiculous! You've got to be kidding! And teachers are saints, wherever they teach. You're right, smudge pot, don't go there...

Oh, and by the way, it was p-o-g-r-a-m. You can't even get the misspelling right.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 01:19 AM
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[quote=downtownguy;101576]
Oh, and by the way, it was p-o-g-r-a-m. You can't even get the misspelling right.[/QUOTE


pogrom |ˈpōgrəm; pəˈgräm|
noun
an organized massacre of a particular ethnic group, in particular that of Jews in Russia or eastern Europe.
ORIGIN early 20th cent.: from Russian, literally ‘devastation,’ from gromit’ ‘destroy by the use of violence.’
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Old December 18th, 2009, 01:21 AM
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What do you expect after all it is FOX NEWS
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Old December 18th, 2009, 03:19 AM
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I don't have anything to add about the story in question, but I watched the clicked the link on the right side of the page that led to a clip about burglaries in Detroit. That's shocking: Of the last 20 arrested for burglary, only two went for prison. If I read that spreadsheet correctly, one of those terms was a year. The rest were just put on probation and had to pay bond / bail or whatever it's called.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 03:30 AM
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I don't have anything to add about the story in question, but I watched the clicked the link on the right side of the page that led to a clip about burglaries in Detroit. That's shocking: Of the last 20 arrested for burglary, only two went for prison. If I read that spreadsheet correctly, one of those terms was a year. The rest were just put on probation and had to pay bond / bail or whatever it's called.
Do you understand what constitutes "burglary"?
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Old December 18th, 2009, 04:00 AM
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Oh, and by the way, it was p-o-g-r-a-m. You can't even get the misspelling right.
Whoosh! It went over your head. It was a lame attempt at a joke on my part. Sorry for bothering you.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 04:22 AM
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This whole 'testing' regime, and the whole 'education' system imposed on Detroit is nothing but a tool of white opression designed and intended to keep blacks from their rightful wealth, power and control while the suburban white power elites continue to bleed the life out of black youth. God bless the DFT for what they are able to do under this yoke of facist enslavement and exploitation
Yep, I think I figured out part of Detroit's problem. Try it this way....if your kids cannot add and subtract how do you figure they'll keep track of the wealth that has been kept from them by white oppression? Notice how oppression is spelled while you complain about obtaining an education.

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Old December 18th, 2009, 08:06 AM
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Mighty funny, I dont hear them talking like this about Ga's or Mississippi's even lower than Detroit's education systems....
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Old December 18th, 2009, 08:30 AM
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Whoosh! It went over your head. It was a lame attempt at a joke on my part. Sorry for bothering you.
My apologies, Chuck_MI. Yes, it did go over my head. I intended my sarcasm for Smudge Pot and his remark against teachers.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 09:02 AM
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Do you guys mean to say that there was a misunderstanding? That the words said were not the words heard? That the intention of hyperbollic snarkisms became contorted through the ears and eyes of the overly sensitive?

Sounds to me that is exactly what happened to Mr. Shepard's words. In reviewing the tape, Mr. Shepard was talking with a set of parents from Detroit who want to send teachers and school board members to jail for their collective failures. Jail.

As though to be sympathic to their outraged point-of-view Mr. Shepard said, "...if my daughter went to school in Detroit, I'd burn the place down." As though he would be so outraged that he would do anything to rectify the situation and hold accountable those responsible.

I usually consider Mr. Shepard a sheep-fucking putz, however in this case he was spot on.

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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:26 PM
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Mighty funny, I dont hear them talking like this about Ga's or Mississippi's even lower than Detroit's education systems....
Actually US News & World Reports ranking for top high schools by state for 2008 shows GA at #20, MI at #26, & MS at #45.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:40 PM
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I saw this piece this morning, and thought people who are discussing the Fox News thing might like it. It's from a Libertarian blog. Pretty spot-on.

http://therobalution.com/2009/12/17/...troit-comment/
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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Smith is hands down the most liberal voice (as possible) on Fox News. If these words were said on another network like NBC or CBS then Fox would have posted this comment without context, without mentioning Smith said it figuratively. Fox would have called out Smith on his word as if he really wanted to burn down a couple of schoolbuildings, and instead they would burn Smith to the ground... And with that they would also kill the topic cause Smith would be the main subject. Leave it to Hannity, O'Reilly or Beck to create the smoke screen.

That's the thing I don't like about Fox News. Never seeing the big picture that the schoolsystem is in grave danger. Fox reporting.... Don't make me laugh!!
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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:42 PM
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My apologies, Chuck_MI. Yes, it did go over my head. I intended my sarcasm for Smudge Pot and his remark against teachers.
How about this? Most pastors, ministers, "reverends" in Detroit are probably on a paying basis. Why not have a couple of "homework nights" each week down at the church? This would probably involve the parents (since they show up on Sundays, anyhow). There's a problem here folks, and cop-out chuckling at typos isn't going to solve it, and cheap cop-out sarcasm isn't going to solve it (really cheap if it has to be explained). The schools are failing, the parents are failing, and the kids are failing. I think the church idea is a good one. And the example of the Jews is a fitting one. Follow their example, if you really care, that is. Thanks Eno, next time make him do the work, a warm feeling of accomplishment might very well do him some good.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 12:50 PM
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[quote=Whitehouse;101757]Smith is hands down the most liberal voice (as possible) on Fox News.[quote]


Ummm...Geraldo Rivera.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 04:19 PM
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Perhaps the Fox basic-white guy is right! If, (the operative word, in his worded spectacle), he lived in inner city Detroit, would burn the place down. To be sure, if he lived within the unimaginable circumstances that many young Black children face daily, brought on by a variety of reasons predicated upon amerikkka's history of biased social practices, (ie; white supremacy/racism/hatred/etc.), the average 'basic-white' person would indeed, burn the place down!

The basic-white guy ought to be thankful for 'white privilege', (or being white in amerikkka'). It goes a long way in determining the out-come of certain amerikkkana' expectations!__go figure!

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Old December 18th, 2009, 04:33 PM
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Fox reporting.... Don't make me laugh!!
Acually Fox is the one that is laughing all the way to the bank.
They have been making a serious run at katie couric's newscast in terms of ratings and when you beat the COMBINED viewership of both your competitors (CNN and PMSNBC) something tells me the public enjoys what it sees on the channel.

But keep watching PMSNBC you and the other three people that watch it seem to enjoy it!!!!!
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Old December 18th, 2009, 05:05 PM
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[quote=JimLaboe;101765][quote=Whitehouse;101757]Smith is hands down the most liberal voice (as possible) on Fox News.
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Ummm...Geraldo Rivera.
Point taken.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 05:25 PM
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We could always wish more terrorist attacks on the greedy, self-important f*cks in NYC and see how they like it...
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Old December 18th, 2009, 07:25 PM
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Mayhaps, he wouldn't find it so funny if someone joked about burning down his inherently trashy and laughable network which hasn't reported actual news since its birth, and whose viewers don't even believe their silly motto.
I don't know, considering they're the highest-rated cable news network in the country & nine of the top ten rated cable news shows are on Faux News (the other being Countdown With Keith Olbermann on MSNBC), Rupert Murdoch apparently has been quite successful in brainwashing the tiny minds of Americans.

If I had a nickel for every people I've heard say Faux News is the most accurate & balanced news station on television, I would be the richest man ever...

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Old December 19th, 2009, 01:09 PM
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Good thread, people, here's the path forward: I'd like some Detroit "Men-of-the-Cloth" to announce tomorrow, from the pulpit, that Wednesday evening we will be having a "homework night", and parents and kids are welcome to attend, and we will help you to work through the homework problems in a way that will help you to understand the underlying principles and concepts. We are plowing new ground here, and it may play out like this: At first, maybe only the nerds will show up, but that's OK, and don't discourage them, because they will become useful, peer, tutors. After a while, more kids will show up, and that's where things will get interesting. I can even envision each pastor setting up a "homework hotline" on the CONNECT board, and each of us helping the kids to work through the problems. Let's initially restrict the hotline to math questions, that will keep the hotline from becoming just a bunch of Wiki links.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 01:21 PM
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Perhaps the Fox basic-white guy is right! If, (the operative word, in his worded spectacle), he lived in inner city Detroit, would burn the place down. To be sure, if he lived within the unimaginable circumstances that many young Black children face daily, brought on by a variety of reasons predicated upon amerikkka's history of biased social practices, (ie; white supremacy/racism/hatred/etc.), the average 'basic-white' person would indeed, burn the place down!

The basic-white guy ought to be thankful for 'white privilege', (or being white in amerikkka'). It goes a long way in determining the out-come of certain amerikkkana' expectations!__go figure!

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And how is calling someone "basic-white" not racist, exactly?
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Old December 19th, 2009, 01:22 PM
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Many of the Men of the Cloth in Detroit run their own schools. I'm sure they'll gladly welcome new students.

Smith dropped out of college and now rakes in an estimated $7-8 million a year - do other "journalists" accept him into their ranks?

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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:11 PM
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We could always wish more terrorist attacks on the greedy, self-important f*cks in NYC and see how they like it...
So all those innocent people who were murdered by Muslim Terrorists in NYC were as you described, "greedy, self-important fucks"???
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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:55 PM
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So all those innocent people who were murdered by Muslim Terrorists in NYC were as you described, "greedy, self-important fucks"???
On about the same scale as Metro Detroiters are all overpaid, undereducated, entitlement-minded lazy asses living in a shithole.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 07:29 PM
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Smith dropped out of college and now rakes in an estimated $7-8 million a year - do other "journalists" accept him into their ranks?
Glenn Beck makes 2-4 times as much as Shep and has the 2nd highest-rated cable news program today, even though he's LESS educated than Smith. Heck, even Sean Hannity (Murdoch's lap dog) is getting pissed off over how Beck just came out of nowhere and within months completely stole his partisan spotlight.

It just proves how dirty the operations at Faux News really are. I wonder whatever happened with Bill O'Reilly's sexual harrassment everyone conveniently forget about?
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Old December 20th, 2009, 01:07 PM
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Try to stay focused, people, we're not done. Summer vacation is a vestige from an America long ago and essentially agrarian. There's no real purpose for summer vacation today. Unless we use it as a carrot. The government should declare a "state of emergency" for every failing school district, and put these districts on a year-round basis. Perfect incentivisation: the kids don't want to go to school all year, and the teachers don't want to work all year. This problem will be solved in no time. The church idea should still be pursued, as an ongoing, community-based, positive outreach.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 02:08 PM
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Acually Fox is the one that is laughing all the way to the bank.
They have been making a serious run at katie couric's newscast in terms of ratings and when you beat the COMBINED viewership of both your competitors (CNN and PMSNBC) something tells me the public enjoys what it sees on the channel.

But keep watching PMSNBC you and the other three people that watch it seem to enjoy it!!!!!
FUXED is only a tabloid cable station, nothing more. Intelligent people don't watch it or refer to it as "news." It's not. It's merely the wet dream of Roger Ailes, and the fascist rantings of Uncle Rupert- whom the brain-dead Rethuglicans who watch it, take as gospel.

Funny, cable news in general is only watched by less than 10 % of the population anyway, so it's all pretty silly.
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