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    Quote Originally Posted by detmsp View Post
    Actually I know damn well that you're completely full of BS. The next generation focus for NA will be built in two plants right here in Michigan.
    Maybe so, then why does Ford need that kind of capacity in China then?

    Amid weakness at home, Ford, Toyota turn to China
    By Dan Strumpf, AP Auto Writer
    NEW YORK — Ford Motor[[F) plans to build a third assembly plant in China while Toyota Motor [[TM) will start selling an entry-level family car there, as the world's automakers pour more resources into the fast-growing Chinese car market amid weakness in their home countries.
    Ford said Friday it plans to spend $490 million on the assembly plant in China. The factory will make the next-generation Focus compact car, which Ford plans to sell globally.
    Last edited by CountrySquire; September-30-09 at 07:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire View Post
    Maybe so, then why does Ford need that kind of capacity in China then?
    Maybe the Chinese market has matured enough to need that kind of capacity. It's near impossible to import cars into China, so if you plan to sell there you need to be able to build there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndavies View Post
    Maybe the Chinese market has matured enough to need that kind of capacity. It's near impossible to import cars into China, so if you plan to sell there you need to be able to build there.

    Sounds like they have the right idea in China. I wish our government would protect us the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire View Post
    Maybe so, then why does Ford need that kind of capacity in China then?

    Amid weakness at home, Ford, Toyota turn to China
    By Dan Strumpf, AP Auto Writer
    NEW YORK — Ford Motor[[F) plans to build a third assembly plant in China while Toyota Motor [[TM) will start selling an entry-level family car there, as the world's automakers pour more resources into the fast-growing Chinese car market amid weakness in their home countries.
    Ford said Friday it plans to spend $490 million on the assembly plant in China. The factory will make the next-generation Focus compact car, which Ford plans to sell globally.
    Maybe they need capactiy in China to build cars for the world's largest auto market, which is conveniently located in nerby... China.

    If the fact that there will be a Chinese assembly plant of the Focus means they will be importing the Focus from China to the US, you could use that same logic to infer that the Focus is already imported from the following countries:

    China [[that's right, there is already an assembly plant in China cranking out the Focus)
    Australia
    Argentina
    Mexico
    South Africa
    Germany
    Philippines
    Portugal
    Taiwan
    Spain
    Russia
    Vietnam

    And then of course there is also an assembly plant right here in Michigan.

    It's a global car... made all over the world, sold all over the world. Quit spreading misinformation.

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    I don't understand how this is misinformation. The plant Ford is proposing in China will build 150K Foci a year. The other plants in Australia or Argentina you mentioned might be capable of what 10K units per year? You can't convince me the Chinese will buy all those 150K Foci per year, so where do you think the remainder will wind up? The article said Ford plans to sell these cars GLOBALLY.

    Quote Originally Posted by detmsp View Post
    Maybe they need capactiy in China to build cars for the world's largest auto market, which is conveniently located in nerby... China.

    If the fact that there will be a Chinese assembly plant of the Focus means they will be importing the Focus from China to the US, you could use that same logic to infer that the Focus is already imported from the following countries:

    China [[that's right, there is already an assembly plant in China cranking out the Focus)
    Australia
    Argentina
    Mexico
    South Africa
    Germany
    Philippines
    Portugal
    Taiwan
    Spain
    Russia
    Vietnam

    And then of course there is also an assembly plant right here in Michigan.

    It's a global car... made all over the world, sold all over the world. Quit spreading misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire View Post
    I don't understand how this is misinformation. The plant Ford is proposing in China will build 150K Foci a year. The other plants in Australia or Argentina you mentioned might be capable of what 10K units per year? You can't convince me the Chinese will buy all those 150K Foci per year, so where do you think the remainder will wind up? The article said Ford plans to sell these cars GLOBALLY.
    jesus christ it's like talking to a wall. Ford has already confirmed that the Focus will be produced in Wayne, Michigan [[which is not in China) for the NA market. You also clearly don't have much of a concept of what a reasonable sales volume is. China is the largest car market in the world. You think they can't sell 150,000 Focuses in China? They sell nearly that many in the UK [[137,000 or so in 2007), which has an auto market about the size of China's auto market's left nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detmsp View Post
    jesus christ it's like talking to a wall. Ford has already confirmed that the Focus will be produced in Wayne, Michigan [[which is not in China) for the NA market. You also clearly don't have much of a concept of what a reasonable sales volume is. China is the largest car market in the world. You think they can't sell 150,000 Focuses in China? They sell nearly that many in the UK [[137,000 or so in 2007), which has an auto market about the size of China's auto market's left nut.
    Here's a thought. Why doesn't Ford help out our fellow country men that need work first before getting a pleasant reach around from China? Why can't Wayne Assembly build cars for export to China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire View Post
    Here's a thought. Why doesn't Ford help out our fellow country men that need work first before getting a pleasant reach around from China? Why can't Wayne Assembly build cars for export to China?
    Don't ask me, ask the people like BuyAmerican who thinks the Big Three gives a rats ass about American workers.

    -Tahleel
    Last edited by tahleel; October-01-09 at 01:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire
    Here's a thought. Why doesn't Ford help out our fellow country men that need work first before getting a pleasant reach around from China? Why can't Wayne Assembly build cars for export to China?
    The answer lies with the hard-core die-hard union members like Sstashmoo and BuyAmerican, who along with the Big 3, are the smartest on the face of the earth. Oh, by the way, my uncle and my father-in-law are both union members ..... but even they could understand that our society in 2009 is completely different from the society back in May 1935 when the UAW was founded.
    Last edited by darwinism; October-01-09 at 02:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire View Post
    Here's a thought. Why doesn't Ford help out our fellow country men that need work first before getting a pleasant reach around from China? Why can't Wayne Assembly build cars for export to China?
    They can't due to the high cost of US labor and Chinese import and sales laws. Cars built in the US would be priced out of a common chinese consumer's reach. China also has had very large restrictions on who could sell cars there. Foreign automakers were forced to create joint ventures with Chinese companies in order to even sell cars there. While the restrictions are being slowly being removed, at this point the only real solution is to venture up with a chinese company and build the vehicles there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndavies View Post
    They can't due to the high cost of US labor and Chinese import and sales laws. Cars built in the US would be priced out of a common chinese consumer's reach. China also has had very large restrictions on who could sell cars there. Foreign automakers were forced to create joint ventures with Chinese companies in order to even sell cars there. While the restrictions are being slowly being removed, at this point the only real solution is to venture up with a chinese company and build the vehicles there.

    Again I agree with you Ndavies that the Chinese government is far more ahead of our government when it comes to protecting the livelihoods of its citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountrySquire View Post
    Maybe so, then why does Ford need that kind of capacity in China then?

    Amid weakness at home, Ford, Toyota turn to China
    By Dan Strumpf, AP Auto Writer
    NEW YORK — Ford Motor[[F) plans to build a third assembly plant in China while Toyota Motor [[TM) will start selling an entry-level family car there, as the world's automakers pour more resources into the fast-growing Chinese car market amid weakness in their home countries.
    Ford said Friday it plans to spend $490 million on the assembly plant in China. The factory will make the next-generation Focus compact car, which Ford plans to sell globally.

    The title of this article pretty much sums up why they are building foreign factories. Dont point the finger at Ford for building foreign factories, it is just trying to survive. Instead point the finger in the mirror, or your driveway.
    [[not talking about you countrysquire, just quoting your article)

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