Duggan Fires DDOT Chief - Declares Population Will Be Growing By Next Election 2017

**DetroitPlanner** · January-08-14, 02:54 PM

It does not surprise me. I have worked with him in the past. He is a pitbull.

**Danny** · January-08-14, 03:14 PM

YAY!!!

Now that's action from Mayor Duggan. I dig his works. He's doing for Detroiters not for personal gain. He's getting rid of some bad apples just like he did when he was Wayne County Prosecutor, CEO of DMC and running the SMART bus system.

**Scottathew** · January-08-14, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner

He is a pitbull.

Yup, and some people won't like the harshness of it, but you can't fix Detroit without making some very harsh and drastic changes.

**DetroitPlanner** · January-08-14, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by 48307

Yup, and some people won't like the harshness of it, but you can't fix Detroit without making some very harsh and drastic changes.

It would not surprise me if this is part of a larger plan to take much of the control back from Orr.

**MikeyinBrooklyn** · January-08-14, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner

It would not surprise me if this is part of a larger plan to take much of the control back from Orr.

I think Orr would love to get as much off of his plate as possible, as long as he can be reasonably sure Duggan's work will be responsible with respect to both budget and services. If Duggan starts fixing things left and right, he might have full power back sooner rather than later.

**MikeyinBrooklyn** · January-08-14, 04:21 PM

Every single city employee should have expectations for job performance. Anyone not achieving should be let go. No ifs, ands, or buts.

**bailey** · January-08-14, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by MikeyinBrooklyn

Every single city employee should have expectations for job performance. Anyone not achieving should be let go. No ifs, ands, or buts.

again... fine... and the point is clearly moot, but the guy that Duggan summarily dismissed WAS the "expert" brought in less than 5 months ago and he was apparently fired for something entirely out of his control [[40% of the drivers not physically able to get into work).

What happens when duggan's new out of state "expert" brought in to turn around DDOT fails to do so in less than 5 months? Fire him and get another one?

**MikeyinBrooklyn** · January-08-14, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by bailey

What happens when duggan's new out of state "expert" brought in to turn around DDOT fails to do so in less than 5 months? Fire him and get another one?

Duggan should give each dept head a list of things he wants either accomplished or demonstrably underway with specific target dates. If they aren't getting it done, yes, you replace them. The length of time, of course, should depend on the specific department, the problems at hand, and the goal. I would actually be in favor of 6-month terms for department heads. At the end, they would need to lay out what they've gotten done, what they are currently doing, and the goals for the next 6 months.

**Richard** · January-08-14, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by bailey

again... fine... and the point is clearly moot, but the guy that Duggan summarily dismissed WAS the "expert" brought in less than 5 months ago and he was apparently fired for something entirely out of his control [[40% of the drivers not physically able to get into work).

What happens when duggan's new out of state "expert" brought in to turn around DDOT fails to do so in less than 5 months? Fire him and get another one?

Kinda makes one wonder of the trickle down effect of those who needed that bus to be there,did they lose a days pay? Did they really need that money to eat and pay bills so bad that they probably trudged through the snow freezing to go to a bus that did not show up?

An expert brought in 5 month's ago that did not have a snow plan in place?
It does snow there,right?

I would have fired him also,to many people depending on the bus system to be let down like that,next would be the 40% that did not show up.That is a big percentage.

**Wesley Mouch** · January-08-14, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by bailey

again... fine... and the point is clearly moot, but the guy that Duggan summarily dismissed WAS the "expert" brought in less than 5 months ago and he was apparently fired for something entirely out of his control [[40% of the drivers not physically able to get into work).

What happens when duggan's new out of state "expert" brought in to turn around DDOT fails to do so in less than 5 months? Fire him and get another one?

Yep. Him and get another. And never be shy about failure. There will always be failures. What is unacceptable is hiding the failure -- or even worse not admitting the failure -- and instead just saying everything is perfect. That's what most perplexes me about education. People don't seem to mind the massive failures. And when someone wants to try something new, they are attacked because its not a proven technique -- or even worse with claims that because that idea was tried before, it can't work. Many self-made rich people have long strings of failures behind them.

Yep -- if this new gal fails, then replace her with someone else. And quickly.