Quote Originally Posted by firstandten View Post
As far as not knowing what's in the plan, you have cliff note versions all over the internet so you can easily find out whats in the Presidents plan. Or just contact Romney's people after all, its the prototype for the ACA.

Also this plan, is a free market plan, it is not a socialist plan,the plan is not free, so this rationing business is all in fox news mind[[I'm assuming thats where you got it from).

However the area, I would want to challenge your thinking is this social Darwinism concept you and the Repubs have about health care. I know its cool to say you don't need any help when it comes to health care, that you are a producer and those other folks [[Obama supporters) are non-producers and if you can't afford health care... tough.

However, unless you own or control the factors of production [[land,labor and capital) you are simply renting.... your job, your small business etc.
Because of that, the rug can be pulled out from under you at any time and in a nano second you will become the non-producing deadbeat that you talk about.

However, unlike being able to downsize into a smaller car, or smaller house when the rug gets pulled out from under you, cancer isn't going to downsize itself into the flu. So if that situation suddently becomes you, can you really hold on to that social darwinistic attitude.

If you can, then more power to you.
firstandten, According to the CBO, the cost of Obamacare will be $1.76T over its first ten years so it isn't 'free' either. I'm not sure if that even included the cost of higher insurance premiums to pay for more things and it certainly doesn't include the costs of jobs moved overseas to take advantage of less health care regulations.

I already posted twice about the Republican plan. Your question assumes certain things I don't assume such as does the 10th Amendment even allow the Republican plan, that more good than bad will come out of Obamacare, that we should keep all the lawyers, insurance companies, and pharmaceuticals fat at the trough with either plan. As I previously mentioned, Vermont is trying to create its own single payer plan and the Obamacare people are interfering with Vermont's effort insisting that the highly compromised [["its the best he could get") Obamacare plan be included in any Vermont plan. Bernie Sanders and other Vermont elected representatives are trying to get a waiver.
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Off topic but last week Monsanto threatened Vermont with a lawsuit for wanting to label GMO foods. Coincidence, or otherwise, former Monsanto VP and head lobbyist Michael Taylor is the Deputy Commissioner for the FDA in the Obama administration -the board tasked with regulating Taylor’s own industry.