Syria's Loss Detroit's Gain? Proposal to Settle Refugees in Northtown

[aj3647]

That's fine, as long as they all have paid medical, credit, money, and are able to pay City, State, and Federal taxes. If not, we already have some.

Did you have any ancestors that perhaps came in through Ellis Island or other ports of entry in the 19th or early 20th century? Did they meet all those criteria?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's engraved on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. Of course, it seems many here want to close that door once those huddled masses start to have a slightly darker skin tone or a different religion than the poor, non-English-speaking, uneducated European immigrants who came before them...

[Honky Tonk]

Did you have any ancestors that perhaps came in through Ellis Island or other ports of entry in the 19th or early 20th century? Did they meet all those criteria?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's engraved on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. Of course, it seems many here want to close that door once those huddled masses start to have a slightly darker skin tone or a different religion than the poor, non-English-speaking, uneducated European immigrants who came before them...

My ancestors, who did come through Ellis Island, legally, didn't attack those who gave them shelter, and definitely pulled their own weight once they got here. They were needed here by the powers that be, @ that time, as a means of affordable labor. If these immigrants are seeking labor, might I suggest the new gen manufacturing countries where labor is these days? Not the countries that give generous benefits to immigrants, and the unemployed. I'm well aware of the engraving on The Statue of Liberty. I'm also well aware of where a large percentage of my tax dollars are going.

[aj3647]

My ancestors, who did come through Ellis Island, legally, didn't attack those who gave them shelter, and definitely pulled their own weight once they got here. They were needed here by the powers that be, @ that time, as a means of affordable labor. If these immigrants are seeking labor, might I suggest the new gen manufacturing countries where labor is these days? Not the countries that give generous benefits to immigrants, and the unemployed. I'm well aware of the engraving on The Statue of Liberty. I'm also well aware of where a large percentage of my tax dollars are going.

The Syrian refugees aren't even here yet, and yet you automatically assume that they will "attack us" and not "pull their weight?" And then you use your unproven assumptions as a retroactive justification for not letting them in in the first place? Do you see a problem with that? Your ancestors got the benefit of the doubt, which allowed you to be born an American with the freedom to type ignorant opinions on Internet forums, but you refuse to give the same benefit to people fleeing from an active war zone. Also, just FYI, these Syrian refugees would also be coming here LEGALLY, so not sure why you decided to toss that word out there, as if to imply the Syrians would be coming here illegally.

[Richard]

Did you have any ancestors that perhaps came in through Ellis Island or other ports of entry in the 19th or early 20th century? Did they meet all those criteria?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's engraved on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. Of course, it seems many here want to close that door once those huddled masses start to have a slightly darker skin tone or a different religion than the poor, non-English-speaking, uneducated European immigrants who came before them...

Yea,that is not really a fair comment,HT or anybody else has not referred to skin color as a deciding factor,so why even go down that road?

When is a lie not a lie but a variation of the truth?

"We were told months back that there is a two year vetting process by the state department.

But now we find out that is not really true.

They registered with the UN refugee agency and underwent a series of interviews and checks, before they were recommended for resettlement.

At first, it seemed they would be sent to Sweden. Then there was talk of Finland. “Then they told us, no, no, you will go to America,” said Faez, who asked to be identified by his first name alone because he still has family in Syria.


Finally, after a further round of screening, the family was accepted as refugees by the US – a country they knew little about."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...s-texas-dallas


So now we know the refugee path.

They leave their country and go to a UN sponsored refugee camp,then the UN does the checks and tells the host countries ,we have say,1000 ready to go.

For the past three years at least it has been with what country has conflict and has refugees as a result of take your pick,Afghanistan,Somalia,Pakistan,take your pick they have been relocating them here for years by the thousands.

The UN does the checks and the vetting not the US,because who is going to divert the resources to check thousands of refugees and how do one even do that.

Okay Hoover had files on everybody,but now do you go to a war torn country and ask the warlord or existing gov for a reference?

Ask a terrorist sponsored organization if this guy is okay?

Why all of the sudden Syria,do we really know what it is about to begin with? We chastised Russia for air strikes against Assad's forces but yet we have this Bolg or website with the last posting in 2012 that says different.

Read it,very interesting.

http://www.americansyrians.com/syria/?page=2

Plausible deniability


We are in the big picture and not individuals or make up a collective in the Governments eye,
Say for instance you bring in 100,000 refugees and one sneaks past as a radical,he or she blows up a building killing 100.

So 100,000 were brought in at the sacrifice of 100,then it will be,"well because we were overwhelmed and could not supply the resources to vet everybody we let the UN handle it.

Sorry we dropped the ball.

So back to Syrians in Detroit.

I will never happen,why?

A:The unemployment rate is to high,the city cannot absorb the low skilled workers until they can be skilled.

B:There is little public transportation to move the masses to the surrounding burbs were the job core base is.

They need cars then,can you add 10,000 cars tomorrow to the streets?

C: They need services,Police,fire,ambulance,city services that are somewhat weak currently,can you put an additional 10,000 on top of that?

So it is clear that the city is not in the position to except that number,so why the proposal?

They knew it was impossible and it would seem that this is just a media ploy to gain support in the end.What were the motives?

[takascar]

Did you have any ancestors that perhaps came in through Ellis Island or other ports of entry in the 19th or early 20th century? Did they meet all those criteria? "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" That's engraved on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. Of course, it seems many here want to close that door once those huddled masses start to have a slightly darker skin tone or a different religion than the poor, non-English-speaking, uneducated European immigrants who came before them...

The stuff on the pedestal is just political clap-trap. Thats not the way the world works. We let people in when it BENEFITS our country. Thats the way it should be.

[Wesley Mouch]

The stuff on the pedestal is just political clap-trap. Thats not the way the world works. We let people in when it BENEFITS our country. Thats the way it should be.

What makes a nation? Just the lucky first in the door? Whoever can supplant the indigenous population? Raw power? Genetics?

Certainly nations and borders are more than just private clubs, but also moral entities created by men to help further mankind.

We may open and close our doors based on impact to us, but I believe we also should be attentive to what's good for the world, for our future, and for the future of all.