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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Expressions and adherents of Christianity are NOT all so snuggled [[no more than all Muslims are politically or socially aligned uniformly).

    However, more center, center-right and the right leaning people and groups tend towards Christianity. Noting that they clearly have more freedom [[and acceptance) socially and politically to do so!

    In contrast to much of the far left that present open animus towards Christians who they deem as ALL right-winged persons engaged a form of trump-conservatism [[oppressors): rinse, wash, repeat. So it goes, and grows.

    In reality this is complex [[how people determine their form of religion relative to their values, race, culture, etc).

    But the masses want grouping and neat packaging. Which works towards culling on one hand, and concentrating interests, votes and allies on the other.
    Statistically speaking, if a person is white and christian and they go to church regularly, there's an 80% chance that they voted for Trump or otherwise approve of him.

    Among liberals, 40% are religiously unaffiliated [[a big chunk of these are people who are spiritual or religious but not a member of a specific church), meaning 60% are religious. Religious people are the majority among liberals. It's very silly to say that the majority of the party is pushing itself out. Rather, the democratic party is not based on religion and so people of different religious beliefs can coexist.


    American conservatism is an ethnonationalist movement where the national identity is white christian. This is why christian nationalists [[the christian right) and white nationalists have found themselves in such strong alignment.

    Black conservative christians don't figure into any of this [[despite on paper being a natural fit) because the christian right isn't about being christian or being conservative [[in the national review sense). It's about being white, and it's about being of a certain type of christian tradition and the black church is very foreign to that.


    The reason why it seems like racism and all this other stuff has increased is because the ethnonationalists had believed themselves to already be in a white christian nation, with the exceptions being successfully segregated and kept in the minority. But recently that's been changing.

    These types of ethnonationalist movements are common around the world and the US isn't so unique that they don't exist here too.

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    Very compelling comments Jason. However, I must point out that I called out the 'far left' as having animus towards Christianity, not liberals per se [[especially traditional liberals). That distinction is very important as the far left by and large distinctly does want to push out Christianity [[as a very crucial mandate), both socially and politically.

    They know that Christianity is not compatible with their world view, particularly their socialist agenda [[incrementally, full on, and historically). They tend to be reticent to press negative narratives/ critiques upon Islam and black/ brown Christians. Knowing it is not in their interests to derail these potential allies. Very interesting times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    Among liberals, 40% are religiously unaffiliated [[a big chunk of these are people who are spiritual or religious but not a member of a specific church), meaning 60% are religious. Religious people are the majority among liberals. It's very silly to say that the majority of the party is pushing itself out. Rather, the democratic party is not based on religion and so people of different religious beliefs can coexist...
    Last edited by Zacha341; February-19-21 at 05:58 AM.

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