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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMcB View Post
    I'm sorry, it's hard to follow exactly what's going on here.

    What ethical rule did she violate again? I remember she got some huge severance package - was it illegal for her to receive it or something?

    I'm not defending her or any of her bosses or anything, but I see a lot of allegations and stuff, I don't see anyone saying "She violated Michigan law xxx part yyy" while doing her job.

    It's very simple. Two months ago. Mrs Tukia Mullin used to work for the big boss Robert "The wife cheater" Ficano. Mrs, Mullin accepted a as CEO of Metro-Airport. Somehow from some source from Wayne County Gov't [[ possibly from Ficano) offered Mrs. Mullin a severance check. But a serverance check on only meant for people who got fired. Mrs Mullin took the check and did whatever she want with it. [[ Servence checks from most county governments are collected from taxpayers like you.). Someone whistblowed the situation and alerted the FBI. They went to Wayne County Seat and issue warrants and supoenas. So far Ficano is the main suspect, but haven't been charged, yet. Most county gov't employees haven't been charged yet, but questioned. Later the Metro-Aiport Board of Directors fired Mrs. Mullen for unjustifiable use of government funds and violation of their code of ethics. The rest is history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Somehow from some source from Wayne County Gov't [[ possibly from Ficano) offered Mrs. Mullin a severance check. But a serverance check on only meant for people who got fired.
    Severance is a payout when an employee leaves an organization, not only when they are fired or laid off. It can be for any reason - it's up to the employer. If her employer gave her a check, and she didn't extort or blackmail anyone into giving it to her [[she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence of that) what did she do wrong?

    Later the Metro-Aiport Board of Directors fired Mrs. Mullen for unjustifiable use of government funds and violation of their code of ethics. The rest is history!
    I heard that in the news today. What was the unjustifiable use of government funds bit again? The severance package she got? That's not up to her, that was up to her old boss. If she didn't get it under some kickback scheme or something [[again, she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence yet) why was she fired? What ethical code did she violate? Accepting a severance package? Is it up to employees to determine if their compensation is ethical or not?

    Sorry, I still don't get it. Her employer gave her too much money - how is that her fault? Something more may be going on, but given the current evidence I don't see how it's more complicated than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMcB View Post
    Severance is a payout when an employee leaves an organization, not only when they are fired or laid off. It can be for any reason - it's up to the employer. If her employer gave her a check, and she didn't extort or blackmail anyone into giving it to her [[she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence of that) what did she do wrong?



    I heard that in the news today. What was the unjustifiable use of government funds bit again? The severance package she got? That's not up to her, that was up to her old boss. If she didn't get it under some kickback scheme or something [[again, she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence yet) why was she fired? What ethical code did she violate? Accepting a severance package? Is it up to employees to determine if their compensation is ethical or not?

    Sorry, I still don't get it. Her employer gave her too much money - how is that her fault? Something more may be going on, but given the current evidence I don't see how it's more complicated than that.


    In the U.S. the government's word serverance is a form of payment which a person get fired, not for other things. Let's put it into a clear understanding:

    Sometimes, they may be offered for people who resign, regardless of the circumstances; or are fired Policies for severance packages are often found in a company's employee handbook, and in many countries are subject to strict government regulation. Severance contracts often stipulate that the employee will not sue the employer for wrongful dismissal or attempt to collect on unemployment benefits, and that if the employee does so, then they must return the severance money. Severance agreements are more than just a "thank you" payment from an employer. They could prevent an employee from working for a competitor and waive any right to possibly pursue a legal claim against the former employer. Also, an employee may be giving up the right to seek unemployment compensation. It is important to review a severance agreement carefully and contact an employment attorney to assist with the review. That is the U.S. Government term of the word severance pay not a corporate severance or other serverances.


    Her employer offered Mrs. Mullen the check. She took it and didn't give it back. That's her decision. Mrs. Mullen was working for CEO of Detroit Metro-Airport that is competitor to other local airports in State of Michigan. That's a violation is U.S. Government severance payment policy! Now's she is paying the price and her reputation is ruined by moral decisions from the Board of Directors of Metro-Airport. What the FBI is looking for the link between some person in county gov't and the severance pay towards Mrs Mullin. How is the payment [[ from Wayne County taxpayers) was abused and what serious federal criminal charges when the perp is found. Mrs. Mullin would also be arrested for class one felony of larceny and extortion of U.S. government funds.
    Last edited by Danny; November-01-11 at 11:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    In the U.S. the government's word serverance is a form of payment which a person get fired, not for other things. Let's put it into a clear understanding:
    She wasn't working for the US government, she was working for Wayne County in some fashion. Was she working directly for the county, or was she working for one of those quasi-governmental government-funded companies? If the former, then severance *can* be dictated by whatever the laws of the county are, unless Michigan law overrides, if there even is a law. If the latter, then severance means whatever the company decides it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMcB View Post
    She wasn't working for the US government, she was working for Wayne County in some fashion. Was she working directly for the county, or was she working for one of those quasi-governmental government-funded companies? If the former, then severance *can* be dictated by whatever the laws of the county are, unless Michigan law overrides, if there even is a law. If the latter, then severance means whatever the company decides it means.
    Government is government whether your working in the state, local, county and federal or quasi form. Mrs. Mullin was working for Wayne County Commisioner Robert Ficano. Wayne County part of is a U.S. government entity, but in a county form. They discuss laws whether to pass or abolished it. Mrs Mullen was a government worker and she was part that U.S. government body. When I was working for Social Security as a clerical. I was working for U.S. government. I can take severance pay as along as I don't take part of another government [[foreign) entity or seek unemployment benefits after left any government [[foreign) entity. All state, local, federal and quasi forms must follow the U.S.government rule of severance plocies. So does Mrs. Mullin and so does me!
    Last edited by Danny; November-01-11 at 11:44 AM.

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    >Government is government whether your working in the state, local, county and federal or quasi form.

    Um, no, no it's not. There are federal regulations that cover federal agencies. Local regulations cover local agencies. If the government of Wayne County was a federal agency then Obama would be in charge of appointing it's director. If Wayne County was a federal agency, it's budget would be set by congress. The Social Security Administration IS a federal agency. Wayne County is not.

    Here is the section of US code that deals with severance:
    http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....2.72.7&idno=5

    And here's the part that deals with who that covers [[the definition of 'Agency')
    http://law.justia.com/codes/us/title5/5usc5595.html

    If you can show me the the federal statue that says this stuff applies to state, county, or city governments, or that local governments now fall under the heading of "Executive branch agency," I'd love to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMcB View Post
    >Government is government whether your working in the state, local, county and federal or quasi form.

    Um, no, no it's not. There are federal regulations that cover federal agencies. Local regulations cover local agencies. If the government of Wayne County was a federal agency then Obama would be in charge of appointing it's director. If Wayne County was a federal agency, it's budget would be set by congress. The Social Security Administration IS a federal agency. Wayne County is not.

    Here is the section of US code that deals with severance:
    http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....2.72.7&idno=5

    And here's the part that deals with who that covers [[the definition of 'Agency')
    http://law.justia.com/codes/us/title5/5usc5595.html

    If you can show me the the federal statue that says this stuff applies to state, county, or city governments, or that local governments now fall under the heading of "Executive branch agency," I'd love to see it.

    Anything that has to do with poltics, discussion and debate about how we shape nations and the communities is government. Making laws or abolish it, handling bureaucracies, announcing any declaration of war or creating peace treaties preventing civilian unrests is government.


    Those laws that you have posted sets the standards for any government employees who recieves ot don't recieves severance pay. County government like Wayne County is a U.S.Government entity.

    Local government, State government, and Federal government. All governmental structures in the United States is in its 'balance of power' meaning no other government is above all others. Thus preventing an over powering governmental structure that could disturb the civil liberties of the American People. Just the way Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Addams and all of forethfathers set it up.

    I took political science many years ago since middle school.
    Last edited by Danny; November-01-11 at 02:22 PM.

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    I just read the front page editorial from Bankole Thompson of the Michigan Chronicle in this latest edition...he is SMOKIN' HOT on this issue, and right on target. He includes a few other curious items, including the controversial purchase of the Guardian Buidling.


    I would LOVE to learn the specifics of the "under-cover-of-darkness" asbestos abatement that went on at the Guardian during my tenure at Eph's. I spent a good many night, working late, watching the wagon-train of dump trucks arrive faithfully...and never heard a PEEP from anyone about it.

    I am quite certain an investigation will find troubles with that job...just a gut feeling, but a strong one. Where's the journalist with the chops to follow up on that one?!


    There was some issue with the building going well over budget...but I never, ever heard the term "asbestos"...although I know for sure that is what that company was doing. I wonder if I took any pictures during that time...not likely, my stuff was all strewn about the BoHouse at the time. Don't even think I saw my camera for a year.


    Cheers, this is getting good.

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    L.

    O.

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    The Freep has a picture on their electronic edition that shows Mullin in an almost saintly pose...for Jeff Gerritt's editorial, which I haven't read yet.


    At that angle, I can see why Ficano wanted her as his "strong manager". He probably has whip scars on him...

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