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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    I think everyone will have it there way ultimately.
    Unless you live in a state that decides you cannot have one and you don't have the means to travel 1-2 states over to receive the care you need. Or how about the states that want to penalize you, possibly jail you, even if you can leave and get the care? Instead you are forcing people, many of whom are already in poverty, to bear children regardless of reason or stage of pregnancy. Youre reinforcing the cycle of poverty because once the child arrives, those on the right refuse to fund anything to help a parent. So no, not everyone will have it their way. Many will have it YOUR way and have to suffer the consequences.

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    Not my way. It is a choice to affirm or not. Which does not necessarily lead to poverty -- lest a few of us MAY NOT HAVE MADE IT at the times our parents [or mother] were struggling. You dig?

    Is black life valued only if the rich can have kids? How about the those within the two-child minimum? Or maybe if the child birth scores a certain ESG? Or IQ [Sanger's idea]. Where's THIS HEADED?

    We REALLY need to listen/ hear ourselves!

    Where is the hope?

    There are those who 'were' abortion-minded who went on to have their children -- their economics and social changing for the better, excellent in some cases. It varies. HOW DID THEY BREAK THE CYCLE OF POVERTY?

    What is their story? Useless, false, or a lie?

    This is why it's so crucial to talk to those who experienced HAVING children despite challenges. Not just the abortion side.

    And who has determined that not anyone helps? How do you know? On the other hand are Pregnancy Crisis centers only run/ funded by the 'eh right-winged, maga, religious folk?

    Yes, it's far easy to 'other' and 'them' ideas and options to negate them.

    Quote Originally Posted by southen View Post
    You're reinforcing the cycle of poverty because once the child arrives, those on the right refuse to fund anything to help a parent. So no, not everyone will have it their way. Many will have it YOUR way and have to suffer the consequences.
    Last edited by Zacha341; March-20-24 at 02:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southen View Post
    Unless you live in a state that decides you cannot have one and you don't have the means to travel 1-2 states over to receive the care you need. Or how about the states that want to penalize you, possibly jail you, even if you can leave and get the care? Instead you are forcing people, many of whom are already in poverty, to bear children regardless of reason or stage of pregnancy. Youre reinforcing the cycle of poverty because once the child arrives, those on the right refuse to fund anything to help a parent. So no, not everyone will have it their way. Many will have it YOUR way and have to suffer the consequences.
    Over 22 Trillion has spent on the war on poverty in 60 years without reducing the level of poverty how exactly does that translate into those on the right refuse to do anything to help a parent?

    They made OTC birth control easily available so there are options,like personal responsibility to not get pregnant in the first place.

    In the county I am in only 23 % of those in poverty or low income and qualify,actually signed up for no cost healthcare where they would have received no cost birth control,but they did not.

    And the county I live in is anything but right wing.
    Last edited by Richard; March-20-24 at 02:18 PM.

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