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    I think like a sports team that's signs an expensive free agent or makes a big trade the jury is out for a while. Let's check back in 5 yrs. and see how the domestic automakers are handling the higher costs vs. the competition, and how ev's are impacting both the companies and employee levels.

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    The money certainly not going to UAW management. Shawn Fain's annual salary is $347,389. He is essentially running a billion dollar corporation with $288 M in revenue. The top salary in comparable-size corporations would be deep into seven figures.

    In addition to labor peace the companies are gaining labor loyalty and the costs are well within their earnings. Labor is only 5% of vehicle cost. This is win-win.

    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I think like a sports team that's signs an expensive free agent or makes a big trade the jury is out for a while. Let's check back in 5 yrs. and see how the domestic automakers are handling the higher costs vs. the competition, and how ev's are impacting both the companies and employee levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    The money certainly not going to UAW management. Shawn Fain's annual salary is $347,389. He is essentially running a billion dollar corporation with $288 M in revenue. The top salary in comparable-size corporations would be deep into seven figures.

    In addition to labor peace the companies are gaining labor loyalty and the costs are well within their earnings. Labor is only 5% of vehicle cost. This is win-win.
    I didn't mean to imply Fain was the free agent. I meant to just draw a comparison with the uaw contract and a free agent signing. People are quick to judge either way but it takes a few years to see the outcome. Hopefully the foreign automakers are pressured to increase wages. Fain's success in unionizing them will be interesting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    The money certainly not going to UAW management. Shawn Fain's annual salary is $347,389. He is essentially running a billion dollar corporation with $288 M in revenue. The top salary in comparable-size corporations would be deep into seven figures.

    In addition to labor peace the companies are gaining labor loyalty and the costs are well within their earnings. Labor is only 5% of vehicle cost. This is win-win.
    They do not tell you what his perks are above the base salary,considering the others were raking in over $5 million a year in “extras”.

    Why should his salary be higher then the average workers? He pushes the socialist agenda,but in typical fashion,he excludes himself.

    He says,billionaires should not exist,756 billionaires in the U.S. out of 350 million and without their investments and job creation where would we be?

    Locally if you turned back the clock and Mr Gilbert did not exist or all of the billion dollar companies,where would Detroit be today.

    We already experienced what happens when the money leaves cities and places like Cuba are fine examples of what it looks like when you depend on the government in order to fund your city.

    Everybody wants everybody else to live equally,but them.

    There seems to be some convoluted thought patterns if the one with money shared it with everybody else we would all be rich,without thinking that the ones with money got it by creating it.

    Its not like there is some big pile of cash sitting there waiting to be split up.

    By that reasoning if the auto workers are making $70 per hour and the waitress is making $15 per hour,the auto workers should take a lower wage or split their paycheck with the waitress.
    Last edited by Richard; November-02-23 at 11:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    ...Let's check back in 5 yrs. and see how the domestic automakers are handling the higher costs vs. the competition...
    But seriously, the only solid evidence of a conspiracy in the deaths five assassinated leaders, JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, RFK, and Walter Philip Reuther, is in the case of WPR. Am I the only one who finds it curious that a conspiracy industry never arose surrounding the demise of WPR? Both our mainstream media and tabloids have hardly pursued the story. Four attempts. The evidence is there -- look it up. Why the Silence of the Lambs?

    Walter Reuther - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    But seriously, the only solid evidence of a conspiracy in the deaths five assassinated leaders, JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, RFK, and Walter Philip Reuther, is in the case of WPR. Am I the only one who finds it curious that a conspiracy industry never arose surrounding the demise of WPR? Both our mainstream media and tabloids have hardly pursued the story. Four attempts. The evidence is there -- look it up. Why the Silence of the Lambs?

    Walter Reuther - Wikipedia
    The assassination of Walter P. Reuther has got to be the saddest, least investigated, and least reported story in Detroit history. He was a good guy who opposed local Nazis like Henry Ford. It came as a surprise to me that Reuther supported the folks who wrote the Port Huron Statement:

    Port Huron Statement - Wikipedia

    A New Insurgency: The Port Huron Statement and Its Times [[umich.edu)

    P.S. The Wikipedia article is deficient insofar as it fails to mention Jeffrey Lebowski, the Dude, who wrote the uncompromised first draft.

    P.P.S. But seriously, did somebody make an offer that our Detroit newspapers couldn't refuse regarding omerta on the Reuther assassination? Are the FBI's files sealed?
    Last edited by Henry Whalley; January-27-24 at 08:39 PM.

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