Baby Zyia Death on Brinker Street

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I'm a liberal and as you can see I condone none of this. But go right ahead Mr. Classy, make the death of a child about your warped political agenda.




Classic so-called "conservative" values of hatred and vitriol. Franklin Roosevelt - REALLY?! The man who saw this country through the Depression and World War II, a good 70 years ago now and you're blaming him for this incident on Brinker Street. It's deeply disturbing first of all that you have the nerve to blast a President who saw this great nation through its darkest days - And what have you done that is so wonderful for society? anything? As far as I can tell you lived on the eastside until you bailed and went on to bitch about it for the following two decades - but that you blame him for today's ills is just bizarre.

I feel bad for you. I am young and hope I never become like you.

Ok PooBear lets Spar over your response to my post;

1. I am speaking of "government welfare" type programs that are largely liberal and democratic in origin and eventually end up sustaining mediocrity. I said nothing about FDR gettting the nation out of the Great Depression and helping to win WWII, although he was a staunch isolationist up until Pearl Harbor, but hey I'm glad that you are somewhat up on your history.

2. I posted what I saw growing up in a Detroit neighborhood where I was the minority [[reads whiteboy) where some not all of the young men on my block sat around drinking 40's and smoking joints complaining about "day cut ma check" they didn't graduate high school, fathered multiple children from multiple females, they did not keep their homes in decent condition.

3. You ask what have I done for society, well I graduated High school like I was supposed to and took my young 17 year old immature butt and joined the Navy where I spent 26 years providing for the safety and security of our great nation, I was not trying to do anything noble or great by joining but hey I needed a job, it turned out to be a good fit so I stayed a little longer than my first hitch [[I did 3 years of them as a Navy recruiter in Detroit where I tried as hard as I could to help qualified young men and women like me have the same opportunities I enjoyed. I was able to go to college [[night school for 10 years) on the GI bill [[provided by Harry S. Truman back in the day) where I eventually earned my Masters Degree, with that and my 26 years of experience I was able to land a 6 figure income in the areospace industry.

4. Poo Bear you are young.. which mean you are supposed to be liberal...The "Classic so-called "conservative" values of hatred and vitriol" that you claim I espouse is actually about personal accountability and responsibility. I have two young daughters, I would NEVER leave them to fend for themselves as this innocent child had to.

5. I can appreciate you feeling bad for me, with Liberals its always about the "feelings" as you grow and mature the ills of society will wear on you and you will evolve to have more conservative values. I wish no ill will towards you or the helpless children that roam the ghetto without proper parenting, but I have no sympathy for those who "CHOOSE" to live in filth and have no respect for what it means to be a parent or for the children they have brought into this world. Being a parent means you sacrifice everything for their well being, you go without so they can thrive, you give them love by providing a safe and secure place for them to grow and prosper, this was clearly not the case in this home.

6. What we all saw in this news report is what the Detroit Police and Fire Dept knows all too well and sees on a daily basis in Detroit.

[ejames01]

Ok PooBear lets Spar over your response to my post;

1. I am speaking of "government welfare" type programs that are largely liberal and democratic in origin and eventually end up sustaining mediocrity. I said nothing about FDR gettting the nation out of the Great Depression and helping to win WWII, although he was a staunch isolationist up until Pearl Harbor, but hey I'm glad that you are somewhat up on your history.

FDR was an isolationist? That isn't true.

But anyway, why are you trying to make this thread about you?

[EASTSIDE CAT 67-83]

FDR was an isolationist? That isn't true.

But anyway, why are you trying to make this thread about you?

ej...It isn't about me, its about the tragic loss of a beautiful innocent child at the hands of ill responsible guardians. I just had to calm Poo Bear down by responding to his hissy fit over my post, BTW your doing a great job of off tracking this thread by your post????
On FDR just read your history, FDR dragged his feet and "pandered" to the isolationist movement thus making him complicit in their cause until Dec 7.

[ejames01]

ej...It isn't about me, its about the tragic loss of a beautiful innocent child at the hands of ill responsible guardians. I just had to calm Poo Bear down by responding to his hissy fit over my post, BTW your doing a great job of off tracking this thread by your post????
On FDR just read your history, FDR dragged his feet and "pandered" to the isolationist movement thus making him complicit in their cause until Dec 7.

Dragged his feet to do what? They were selling arms to the allies a year before pearl harbor and even Lend Lease was signed in March '41. What else could he have done before congress declared war and the public was ready to go to enter the war?

[poobert]

Ok PooBear lets Spar over your response to my post;

1. I am speaking of "government welfare" type programs that are largely liberal and democratic in origin and eventually end up sustaining mediocrity. I said nothing about FDR gettting the nation out of the Great Depression and helping to win WWII, although he was a staunch isolationist up until Pearl Harbor, but hey I'm glad that you are somewhat up on your history.

2. I posted what I saw growing up in a Detroit neighborhood where I was the minority [[reads whiteboy) where some not all of the young men on my block sat around drinking 40's and smoking joints complaining about "day cut ma check" they didn't graduate high school, fathered multiple children from multiple females, they did not keep their homes in decent condition.

3. You ask what have I done for society, well I graduated High school like I was supposed to and took my young 17 year old immature butt and joined the Navy where I spent 26 years providing for the safety and security of our great nation, I was not trying to do anything noble or great by joining but hey I needed a job, it turned out to be a good fit so I stayed a little longer than my first hitch [[I did 3 years of them as a Navy recruiter in Detroit where I tried as hard as I could to help qualified young men and women like me have the same opportunities I enjoyed. I was able to go to college [[night school for 10 years) on the GI bill [[provided by Harry S. Truman back in the day) where I eventually earned my Masters Degree, with that and my 26 years of experience I was able to land a 6 figure income in the areospace industry.

4. Poo Bear you are young.. which mean you are supposed to be liberal...The "Classic so-called "conservative" values of hatred and vitriol" that you claim I espouse is actually about personal accountability and responsibility. I have two young daughters, I would NEVER leave them to fend for themselves as this innocent child had to.

5. I can appreciate you feeling bad for me, with Liberals its always about the "feelings" as you grow and mature the ills of society will wear on you and you will evolve to have more conservative values. I wish no ill will towards you or the helpless children that roam the ghetto without proper parenting, but I have no sympathy for those who "CHOOSE" to live in filth and have no respect for what it means to be a parent or for the children they have brought into this world. Being a parent means you sacrifice everything for their well being, you go without so they can thrive, you give them love by providing a safe and secure place for them to grow and prosper, this was clearly not the case in this home.

6. What we all saw in this news report is what the Detroit Police and Fire Dept knows all too well and sees on a daily basis in Detroit.

I'm pretty up on my history as it was my major study.

We're not going to agree on everything but I also have no sympathy for those who do not try to better themselves and God forbid bring children into such a world.

Awesome service record. Thank you for what you have done. I am Reserve. We are going to have to agree to disagree on the liberal/government part. Happy Independence Day.

[Scottathew]

I'm pretty up on my history as it was my major study.

We're not going to agree on everything but I also have no sympathy for those who do not try to better themselves and God forbid bring children into such a world.

Awesome service record. Thank you for what you have done. I am Reserve. We are going to have to agree to disagree on the liberal/government part. Happy Independence Day.

A happy ending!

I'm an anti-war fiscal conservative, so everyone I talk to hates me.