America's Socialist Programs

[fryar]

Crumbled_pavement, you said that very well.

I don't draw the line at health care at all, I look at that as a legitimate entitlement, basically another version of food stamps. That said, the bill that was passed will hopefully be adjusted and simplified. One thing worth looking at might be systemic changes that would reduce defensiveness on the part of the practitioners - defensive medicine being an oft-mentioned example.

I would be all in favor of doing things to streamline government programs, I can only imagine there is a ton of waste.

I would also be in favor of electing independents. You've gotta love Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders cause you know they're not shit-eating sell-outs, right?

[rb336]

I would also be in favor of electing independents. You've gotta love Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders cause you know they're not shit-eating sell-outs, right?

What annoys the hell out of me is that the REAL liberals in the democratic party - Kucinich, Feingold, etc. - are marginalized by their party. Ron Paul I have no respect for, primarily because of those racist klan-esque articles in HIS newsletter. Either he agrees with them, or, if what he says is true, he allowed the crap to go out under his name and just didn't bother paying attention.

[oladub]

rp, You must have a better understanding of the issue than the head of the Austin Texas NAACP who has personally known Ron Paul for many years. Either that or you believe everything you read on the Daily Kos.

Ron Paul was working full time in his OB practice back in Texas when a ghostwriter wrote the offensive passages in a newsletter that was living a life of it's own after Ron Paul had quit his House seat and resumed full time medical practice. Ron Paul did, however, take responsibility and apologized for things written in his former newsletter even though he was not aware of them at the time.

The Austin NAACP President Supports Ron Paul Against Charges of Racism http://saintluke.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/naacp-supports-paul/ Lindner was speaking in a personal capacity. He was not saying the NAACP endorsed Ron Paul.

"Knowing Ron Paul and having talked to him, I think he's a very fair guy I just think that a lot of folks do not understand the Libertarian platform," he added.
Asked directly if Ron Paul was a racist, Linder responded "No I don't," adding that he had heard Ron Paul speak out about police repression of black communities and mandatory minimum sentences on many occasions.
Dr. Paul has also publicly praised Martin Luther King as his hero on many occasions spanning back 20 years.
"I've read Ron Paul's whole philosophy, I also understand what he's saying from a political standpoint and why people are attacking him," said Linder.
"If you scare the folks that have the money, they're going to attack you and they're going to take it out of context," he added.
"What he's saying is really really threatening the powers that be and that's what they fear."

You better stick with Obama rp. At least he doesn't threaten the powers that be by conducting the wars, trade policies, and banking policies of their choice.

[rb336]

rp, You must have a better understanding of the issue than the head of the Austin Texas NAACP who has personally known Ron Paul for many years. Either that or you believe everything you read on the Daily Kos.

Ron Paul was working full time in his OB practice back in Texas when a ghostwriter wrote the offensive passages in a newsletter that was living a life of it's own after Ron Paul had quit his House seat and resumed full time medical practice. Ron Paul did, however, take responsibility and apologized for things written in his former newsletter even though he was not aware of them at the time.

You better stick with Obama rp. At least he doesn't threaten the powers that be by conducting the wars, trade policies, and banking policies of their choice.

If he didn't have the time to monitor what went out under his name that, as I said, speaks poorly of him as well. if he couldn't monitor it, he should have shut it down. The ghost writer hired shows a further lack of judgement.

"If you scare the folks that have the money, they're going to attack you and they're going to take it out of context," he added.
"What he's saying is really really threatening the powers that be and that's what they fear."

I haven't seen much of ron paul's stuff. never said I did. I read some of the stuff on his web site. didn't see anything particularly threatening to the monied folks. also never said i thought he was a racist