St. Jude Church/School Nostalgia

[kellyroad]

You have something there. I vaguely think I remembe Mom also telling me something about the Salters somehow being related to the Greiners - for whom Greiner street out near City Airport was named.

Never heard of any connection with Schoenherr, though.

I'm emailing my mom's friend and asking her to take a look at this thread. Maybe she will be able to provide me with some additional information.

Also, I noted another post mentioning the house in question being on the corner of Seven Mile and Morang, in the southwest corner of the field. Despite all my confidence in my earlier post about that house "definitely" being west of Brock, now that I think about it I think I might be inclined to that it was indeed east of Brock in what is now the southeast corner of the field. It's just that it's been so long since that house was torn down, I've been used to the field just being the field. But now that I think about it I think one did have a direct view of that house while waiting at the light at the end of Morang at 7 mile. That would have been way way back in my elementary school days which is why my memory of it is a bit vague.

Before our family moved to Eastwood we lived on Morang just a couple of blocks south of Mt. Hope church. In fact its sight from our house was in line with the house on the St. Jude playfield. That house was there during my entire school time at St. Jude [[59 to 67) and wasn't razed until well into the 70s. It seemed like it was a farm house at one time. I wonder if there was a barn and silo on the St. Jude playfield property at one time. There was a posting on the Heilmann site at one time stating that the property just north of St. Jude playfield was know as Ford Garden. I'm wondering if that property and the property that comprised St. Jude playfield were the same plot. Did the Arch Diocese purchase a portion of Ford Garden for the playfield or was it a separate parcel of land owened by the people who lived on the corner house? Did Maddelein St. go through Brock to Crusade? Maybe Eastburn can shed some light on this topic when he returns.

[jcole]

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[EMG]

Before our family moved to Eastwood we lived on Morang just a couple of blocks south of Mt. Hope church. In fact its sight from our house was in line with the house on the St. Jude playfield. That house was there during my entire school time at St. Jude [[59 to 67) and wasn't razed until well into the 70s. It seemed like it was a farm house at one time. I wonder if there was a barn and silo on the St. Jude playfield property at one time. There was a posting on the Heilmann site at one time stating that the property just north of St. Jude playfield was know as Ford Garden. I'm wondering if that property and the property that comprised St. Jude playfield were the same plot. Did the Arch Diocese purchase a portion of Ford Garden for the playfield or was it a separate parcel of land owened by the people who lived on the corner house? Did Maddelein St. go through Brock to Crusade? Maybe Eastburn can shed some light on this topic when he returns.

All of that is new information to me. But if there was a "Ford Garden" there I wonder if there was any connection to Fordham street....?

As far as I know, Maddelein street did go through for at least all of the time I knew the area. I remember my grandfather used to take me to Heilmann field to go kite-flying when I was very young and I'm pretty sure he used to park the car on Maddelein. This would have been in the mid-60's.

[EMG]

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I did find that if you click on the link you provide above [[which only goes through "anderson") you then get to a directory page and on that directory page you can scroll down to the stry_ tdr link from there.

[[And I did just find that this board has a problem with that combination of characters. In the above which I quoted, you accidentally inverted the d and the t in the part coming after stry. The correct order is tdr, not dtr, but if you do it with the underscore in front of it, it converts to tildes which don't work. That's why I deliberately left a space in it at the end of my first sentence in this post).

[jcole]

I did find that if you click on the link you provide above [[which only goes through "anderson") you then get to a directory page and on that directory page you can scroll down to the stry_ tdr link from there.

[[And I did just find that this board has a problem with that combination of characters. In the above which I quoted, you accidentally inverted the d and the t in the part coming after stry. The correct order is tdr, not dtr, but if you do it with the underscore in front of it, it converts to tildes which don't work. That's why I deliberately left a space in it at in my first sentence in this post).

What the hell does ~~~dr mean that it gets ~~~?

[EMG]

What the hell does ~~~dr mean that it gets ~~~?

Who knows? But whatever it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Bill Gates idea.

[kellyroad]

Thanks for the great link EMG and JC. The information on the Salter house states that it still stands at 15303 E. Seven Mile. It was published in the 90s. For the life of me, I thought that house was gone by the early 70s. The picture shown in the link does look like the house by Vetre Hardware. We know at this point that the Salter house is not the St. Jude playfield house.

[7andkelly]

We didn't have a pediatrician either - it was good old Dr. McDonald at State Fair and Gratiot. The place smelled like alcohol and shots.

My pediatrician used to practice around that same area, perhaps with Dr. Burton. He was likely in the same HMO. His name was Dr. Wilbur Johnson. Nice doctor, but I hated shots, speaking of which I think he stayed for a drink with my Dad once after making a house call. He died in the early to mid eighties, at a relatively young age. Went to his replacement once or twice after that, but it was just not the same. I still miss Doc Johnson today.

[jcole]

Thanks for the great link EMG and JC. The information on the Salter house states that it still stands at 15303 E. Seven Mile. It was published in the 90s. For the life of me, I thought that house was gone by the early 70s. The picture shown in the link does look like the house by Vetre Hardware. We know at this point that the Salter house is not the St. Jude playfield house.

I think it may be gone now. If you google that address, you get this:
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...N&hl=en&tab=wl

Hit the Street View, and you'll see parking lot next to 15307 E. 7 Mile.

[12468_laing]

so, the mystery is now solved. does anyone know if the applebee's at kelly and 8 is still there? last time i was there, they had old pictures of the area hanging in the lobby. seems i remember one with the name of salter. anyone still in detroit able to find out?

[jcole]

It's still there. I just drove by it last week, but I didn't go in. Had a wedding on Harper and 8 1/2 mile.

[7andkelly]

I think it may be gone now. If you google that address, you get this:
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...N&hl=en&tab=wl

Hit the Street View, and you'll see parking lot next to 15307 E. 7 Mile.

Looks like all that's left is the family tree in the backyard.

[kellyroad]

Looks like all that's left is the family tree in the backyard.

7K: family tree?....Are your speaking metaphorically?

[7andkelly]

7K: family tree?....Are your speaking metaphorically?

No...the tree itself. If you go to J's link, and click on street view, and then click the left directional arrow you can see the vacant lot that we think was the Salter's, and it looks to me like there is a mature tree in what was their backyard.

[kellyroad]

No...the tree itself. If you go to J's link, and click on street view, and then click the left directional arrow you can see the vacant lot that we think was the Salter's, and it looks to me like there is a mature tree in what was their backyard.

7K: Forgive my poor attempt at humor.

[kellyroad]

TOPIC OF DISCUSSION: Since we're talking about noted houses in the St. Jude Parish I thought I'd poll everyone on the following. What was the most noted home in St. Jude Parish. Many of us of course knew of the St. Jude playfield house. but in your opinion what house stuck out as either being grand, fancy, old, delapidated, haunted?, odd....in other words, when you mention the house everyone else knows what you are referring to.
[[The Rapport Club house or any parish properties such as the original rectory on Kelly Road are not included.)

[jcole]

The one around the block from me on Lappin St. It belonged to an older couple named Daudlin<sp?>.
It was a double lot with a vegetable garden in the back, as well as a three car garage that opened onto the alley. They also had grape vines and flowers in the big side lot. The house itself was kind of a orange stucco-y looking place. It was large, at least to a kid. It just didn't fit the neighborhood, but looked like it may have been there long before anything else was.

[12468_laing]

if you want haunted, what about the house on State Fair west of Gratiot that was said to be haunted? big old house on the north side of the street.

[kellyroad]

There was a house on Eastwood near Morang that was probably the original farm house in that area. Most of the people who lived in the triangle [[Morang, Kelly, 7 Mile) knew of it. It was a wooden, light gray colored, porch across the front, wood shed/garage off to the side. It was located right next to the alley that ran behind the houses on Morang. The houses located next to the alley all had an extra pie shape land on their property. This house had and extra large pie with a dirt lane that curve from the front on the Eastwood side to the alley. There was a huge tree on the property that was not an elm [[that all the homes had planted in the early 40s). The house has been gone for decades now.....You didn't need an address when referring to the house.

[jcole]

Yeah, laing, I remember that one, too. It always had an old rug hanging on the line on the front porch. Rain, shine, snow, it was always there. But I don't think that was ST. Jude parish. St. Ray's maybe?

[zitro]

if you want haunted, what about the house on State Fair west of Gratiot that was said to be haunted? big old house on the north side of the street.

I'm glad you brought that one up laing. I remember that house we had to parade in front of it for the beginning of Wish Egan baseball and it gave all of us the willies.

[12468_laing]

jcole, you are right, it wasn't St. Jude - can't remember where St. Rays was. was it towards Osborn? And, yes, there always was a rug hanging in front.

[jcole]

St. Raymonds was on Joann just south of Eight Mile, West of Schoenherr.

[Tsomyak]

The house that stood out in our corner of the parish was the Garner residence on Lansdowne, second house from the NW corner of Casino. My friend Jimmy lived there, and the house had been in and out of his family throughout the 20 century. One the times it was out of the family was during prohibition, and the residents ran a still in the basement. When I was a kid I remember being shown the holes cut into basement ceiling for the ventilation needed for the still. Mr. Garner still lived there in the 90's, I don't know who is in the house currently. The house definitely stands out from the others. I believe it is three stories.

[Tsomyak]

With regards to the family doc, we saw Dr. Oberski at the Chatham Professional Building [[always thought that was an impressive name as a kid). It was a half block from the NE corner of Moross and Kelly, next to the Standard station. He had a partner there, who also served as "team doctor" for the ND High School football team. Dr. De Palma maybe???