GM to move Cadillac brand to New York City

[Cliffy]

When I look at what Tesla, VW, Google, and others are doing with cars in California, one gets the sense that California is leading in innovation. That's not, I'd say, a good sign for Detroit.

Can you give examples.

For as much as people bitch about Michigan, the best engineers in the world are in this area.

[ABetterDetroit]

Can you give examples

Fisker is gone. Tesla is constantly on the hunt for more private placements. Very tough gig, need shitloads of capital and if and when you get there the margins suck.

[iheartthed]

Can you give examples.

For as much as people bitch about Michigan, the best engineers in the world are in this area.

Honda is in Torrance, California.

BMW has a technology centre in Mountain View, California.

Mercedes Benz research and development is in neighboring Sunnyvale, California.

Need more?

[ndavies]

Sorry these are all just places. Just because a company is somewhere doesn't mean they are creating products there. The real question to ask is what products have those facilities created.

Most of Hondas US engineering is done in Marysville Ohio. 99 percent of BMW, VW and Mercedes engineering is done in Germany. Mercedes US engineering is done in Alabama. VW's US engineering is done in Nashville. The Mercedes and BMW offices out west are mostly sales and marketing.

Toyota does it's north American development in York Township near Ann Arbor. They are dumping huge amounts of Money to grow it's engineering center there.

Most of the really cutting edge apps are being done by the automotive suppliers. Continental, Bosch, TRW, ZF, Visteon, Magna, Johnson controls ..... All the large suppliers have Huge engineering facilities here. A majority of the overseas suppliers have engineering offices here.

[Gistok]

Sorry these are all just places. Just because a company is somewhere doesn't mean they are creating products there. The real question to ask is what products have those facilities created.

Most of Hondas US engineering is done in Marysville Ohio. 99 percent of BMW, VW and Mercedes engineering is done in Germany. Mercedes US engineering is done in Alabama. VW's US engineering is done in Nashville. The Mercedes and BMW offices out west are mostly sales and marketing.

Toyota does it's north American development in York Township near Ann Arbor. They are dumping huge amounts of Money to grow it's engineering center there.

Most of the really cutting edge apps are being done by the automotive suppliers. Continental, Bosch, TRW, ZF, Visteon, Magna, Johnson controls ..... All the large suppliers have Huge engineering facilities here. A majority of the overseas suppliers have engineering offices here.

Hi Ndavies... over the years I've always liked your posts... they're to the point, not lacking in details.... and never shrill or emotional....

Thanks!

[maverick1]

Honda is in Torrance, California.

BMW has a technology centre in Mountain View, California.

Mercedes Benz research and development is in neighboring Sunnyvale, California.

Need more?

This is half correct, Mercedes Benz R&D is in California and Detroit/Redford.