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    update from Mackinac: http://detnews.com/article/20110603/...CS02/106030367

    this legislator from White Lake sounds like he's gotten donations from Moroun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyles View Post
    update from Mackinac: http://detnews.com/article/20110603/...CS02/106030367

    this legislator from White Lake sounds like he's gotten donations from Moroun...
    It appears as though Snyder is basically repeating the same action that Granholm took last year with the July 1st timeframe. Most of the state's representatives and senators were in office before Snyder and already have their own opinions on the legislation.

    So the question is: What parts of the deal are so new and relevant that it will sway enough of the no votes into yes votes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    It appears as though Snyder is basically repeating the same action that Granholm took last year with the July 1st timeframe. Most of the state's representatives and senators were in office before Snyder and already have their own opinions on the legislation.

    So the question is: What parts of the deal are so new and relevant that it will sway enough of the no votes into yes votes?
    I would think, with Canada offering to front money, and the apparent opportunity to leverage it into $2 billion in federal funding for roads [[jobs), the political heat is a bit hotter this summer than it was last summer to support the public bridge. Guess we'll see.
    Last edited by bartock; June-03-11 at 02:58 PM. Reason: political not politically

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    I would think, with Canada offering to front money, and the apparent opportunity to leverage it into $2 billion in federal funding for roads [[jobs), the political heat is a bit hotter this summer than it was last summer to support the public bridge. Guess we'll see.
    The problem with that is the lack of details with that proposal. The same with the argument that tolls are going to pay for the new bridge. We all know that the new bridge will not make enough money to sustain itself and will require subsidies. Most people don't care. The pro DRIC, or whatever the new bridge is calling itself this week, would be better off saying so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    The problem with that is the lack of details with that proposal. The same with the argument that tolls are going to pay for the new bridge. We all know that the new bridge will not make enough money to sustain itself and will require subsidies. Most people don't care. The pro DRIC, or whatever the new bridge is calling itself this week, would be better off saying so.
    It would seem that Mr. Maroun disagrees. He should know.

    He wants to build it privately. Doesn't that tell you something about the profitability of the bridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley Mouch View Post
    It would seem that Mr. Maroun disagrees. He should know.

    He wants to build it privately. Doesn't that tell you something about the profitability of the bridge?
    Have you compared the price tags. The DRIC is going to cost 5 times what the DIBC is proposing, which means the AB won't have to make as much to turn a profit. Besides, with the Ambassador Bridge being privately owned, the onus will be on Maroun to cover any shortfalls, not the taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    Have you compared the price tags. The DRIC is going to cost 5 times what the DIBC is proposing, which means the AB won't have to make as much to turn a profit. Besides, with the Ambassador Bridge being privately owned, the onus will be on Maroun to cover any shortfalls, not the taxpayers.
    You drank the Manny Kool Aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraig View Post
    Have you compared the price tags. The DRIC is going to cost 5 times what the DIBC is proposing, which means the AB won't have to make as much to turn a profit. Besides, with the Ambassador Bridge being privately owned, the onus will be on Maroun to cover any shortfalls, not the taxpayers.
    You believe that? Five times!?!?

    Someone's just using numbers to win the argument.

    Again --- listen --- Manny knows that its worth building. And he's very smart.

    And he says its too expensive for you to build. And he's very smart.

    Don't building, it. I lose money on every sale. And he's very smart.

    Do as I say, not as I do say's Manny. And he's very smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley Mouch View Post
    He wants to build it privately. Doesn't that tell you something about the profitability of the bridge?
    I noticed that. He opposes a new DRIC bridge saying that there's not enough demand, but at the same time he's buying land and trying to design the toll plaza to accommodate new Ambassador span.

    So what is Matty? Do we need a bridge or don't we?


    Moroun is an evil, greedy, cigar chomping, politician greasing slimeball.

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