ACLU sues State of Michigan over quality of Highland Park schools

[Lowell]

Highland Park and its public schools need our sympathy and support.

Highland Park is severely disadvantaged, even more than Detroit in terms of having an unsustainable portion of its population being poor or disabled. With that comes added expenses for their care and increased crime which leads to high insurance rates, lower valuations, lower revenues, decreasing services and a resultant middle class flight. Pile on to that broken camel's back the burden of millions in pension fund outlays generously granted to a large workforce, back when the population was three times larger and three times wealthier, none of whom live in HP.

This spills over into the school system where the children of the disadvantaged comprise the student bodies. Many children need, through no fault of their own, things beyond education, like food and secure passage to school and home. Thing that never cross the radar in some districts.

There's a saying that good schools are derived from involved parents and a quality principal. But what about those school districts where the involved parents have gone elsewhere?

There is a small middle class citizenry in Highland Park primarily in its two historic homes districts. I was one of them. We placed our child in the Barber School Head Start program. It was outstanding, required on-site alternating parental involvement and had a teacher and an assistant for 15 kids.

The next step would be Kindergarten with one teacher for 30 kids in a windowless room, almost entirely non-Head Start-ed kids. One peek in there and it off to St. Benedict's School in Highland Park to pay the tuition for an orderly and quality education by liberation nuns and lay staff.

Almost no one in HP who had enough income sent their kids to the public schools. Many with even lower incomes scuffled and figured out how to get alternate educations for their kids. Today, the charter schools have to have bled off even more involved parentage.

My solution? Head Start forever. Carry over the Head Start model of one teacher and one assistant for 15 kids for all grades. Provide Highland Park with the public safety proportionate not to its population, but its needs. Don't scold the parents who remain or are stuck there. Help them out.

We can pay a little more now or a lot more later.

[belleislerunner]

Whomever is raising the children is to blame.

It's one thing if you can't explain to your child how to FOIL multiplication variables in algebra or the inner workings of an atom - but if a child cannot read or write - it is the fault of the person raising the child.

I'm curious as to what argument can be made to state it isn't a parent's responsiblity. If I saw my child wasn't learning multiplication tables fast enough - i'd buy flashcards at at Walmart/dollar store and assist at home.

The travesty is that an adult in the house knowingly and willingly watched a child grow up without spending 30 minutes a day to help teach the child to read or write. The ultimate child abuse!

[iheartthed]

Whomever is raising the children is to blame.

It's one thing if you can't explain to your child how to FOIL multiplication variables in algebra or the inner workings of an atom - but if a child cannot read or write - it is the fault of the person raising the child.

I'm curious as to what argument can be made to state it isn't a parent's responsiblity. If I saw my child wasn't learning multiplication tables fast enough - i'd buy flashcards at at Walmart/dollar store and assist at home.

The travesty is that an adult in the house knowingly and willingly watched a child grow up without spending 30 minutes a day to help teach the child to read or write. The ultimate child abuse!

It is the parents responsibility too. That doesn't absolve the state of its responsibility.

The state's true guilt is that it is allowing kids to be pushed through the system without being adequately prepared according to its own standards. Yeah, it's partly the parents fault that the kid can't read, but the parents are not the ones passing those kids on to the next grade level while knowing they can't read.

[Wesley Mouch]

Highland Park and its public schools need our sympathy and support.

...<snip>...Provide Highland Park with the public safety proportionate not to its population, but its needs. Don't scold the parents who remain or are stuck there. Help them out.

We can pay a little more now or a lot more later.

Sympathy and support come with dissolution of the dysfunctional government in place. It should become the 'opportunity' for either county, state, or federal government. Existing labor agreements and contracts and pensions all get torn up and replaced with a generic public pension reserved for those who don't manage their affairs well enough. I know many will say that there's not enough money -- but if failure of pensions is in the future, then money that has gone to corruption and waste in HP will instead find its way to better places -- because those in charge will realize their future is wrapped up not just in their ability to get good agreements today -- but 'sustainable' financial success for their city.

Or it just goes away along with the failure.

So I agree 100% with you on our obligations to step in and helpl with HP.

[belleislerunner]

Being poor is a red herring.

Every child could learn to read and write using nothing more than a Bible [[or any book), pen and paper.

I agree 100% about the lack of quality public schools, bad enviroment etc at the HP facilities - my point was merely - the reasons cited [[i.e. inability to read and write) should be child abuse for the parents. You don't need to rely on any government/school to teach that.

[iheartthed]

Being poor is a red herring.

Every child could learn to read and write using nothing more than a Bible [[or any book), pen and paper.

I agree 100% about the lack of quality public schools, bad enviroment etc at the HP facilities - my point was merely - the reasons cited [[i.e. inability to read and write) should be child abuse for the parents. You don't need to rely on any government/school to teach that.

I honestly don't get this line of thought. Of course, any child could theoretically learn to read and write using the Bible. Hell, American slaves did it! But why are kids in Highland Park "bad" for not doing what we wouldn't ever expect of kids in any rich district? You're expecting the most from the kids who have the least and when they don't give that then you say it's their own fault.

[belleislerunner]

I grew up in Northern Macomb County - and that's how we learned - and I learned to read/write in the 80's - so it's not that archaic.

No need to make excuses for people's bad behavior.

[iheartthed]

I grew up in Northern Macomb County - and that's how we learned - and I learned to read/write in the 80's - so it's not that archaic.

No need to make excuses for people's bad behavior.

Well, I hope the ACLU sues your school district too.

[JBMcB]

But why are kids in Highland Park "bad" for not doing what we wouldn't ever expect of kids in any rich district? You're expecting the most from the kids who have the least and when they don't give that then you say it's their own fault.

My son is 4 and he's learning to read and write with a couple of $2 workbooks from Target, flashcards we made from 3x5 cards, some blank paper and crayons. Total cost about $10.

Short of a clinical condition, there is NO damn reason to be illiterate. Even in flat-broke districts, there are after-school programs, clinics run by non-profits and churches, free workbooks from libraries, etc...

[iheartthed]

My son is 4 and he's learning to read and write with a couple of $2 workbooks from Target, flashcards we made from 3x5 cards, some blank paper and crayons. Total cost about $10.

Short of a clinical condition, there is NO damn reason to be illiterate. Even in flat-broke districts, there are after-school programs, clinics run by non-profits and churches, free workbooks from libraries, etc...

Clearly, there is a reason to be illiterate... Otherwise, we wouldn't have illiterate people.

But I know where you're going with this one. Places like Highland Park have such low literacy rates because of the people who choose to live there. If the people cared about being literate then they wouldn't live in places like Highland Park. Except... I'm sure that 14 year old kid did not choose to live in Highland Park or to even be born for that matter.

But really, that's not even my problem with Highland Park schools, and by extension, the state. My problem with the school system is that they are rubber stamping these kids through the system and ignoring the problem. How does a kid get to 7th grade writing like that?! If someone can give me a legitimate answer to that then they should represent the state in court.