Chris Webber building $50 million cannabis operations campus in Detroit

[gnome]

I took a little streetview tour of the block and could imagine a complex that would be charming and functional.

A huge part of the charm factor can be found in the old brick street surface on 22nd, the architectural detail of the 1916 era building and - of course - whatever can be saved/recreated on Michigan Ave.

During the aforementioned streetview tour I did espy a gentleman painting the front of the Highwaymen’s Clubhouse and smoothie bar a tasteful shade of black.

Is it code for biker clubhouses to be painted matte black?

Is it a Hollywood cliche that bikers have embraced so as to perpetuate the belief that danger lurks within?

I also officially apologize to all grocery-getting moms and their French-fry encrusted mini-vans.

[Bong-Man]

It's an old and familiar story. The City of Detroit just couldn't manage to get out of it's own way on an issue they were once at the forefront on. Now this issue is just passing them by. The lack of recreational provisioning has caused their own to head to the suburbs. 'House of Dank' has opened a beautiful store in Centerline. The city now has 4 recreational shops. Hazel Park has 4. Mt. Clemens is about to open 'Jars' on Groesbeck just North of Cass. Most if not all of these dispensaries deliver to your front door. Instead of allowing their numerous medical dispensaries to compete with the new rec market, they continue to handcuff their own businesses, and the revenue goes elsewhere.

[One Shot]

Pretty soon the only thing left will be weed shops, liquor stores, casinos, sports betting and scumbag lawyers. No thanks

[CassTechGrad]

So the idea is to get Detroiter’s to spend some of their hard earned money on getting high instead of groceries or rent or doctor bills. These are the people who can least afford it. I takes a cold, cold heart to tempt your own neighbors and friends onto buying an addictive substance.

[gnome]

So the idea is to get Detroiter’s to spend some of their hard earned money on getting high instead of groceries or rent or doctor bills. These are the people who can least afford it. I takes a cold, cold heart to tempt your own neighbors and friends onto buying an addictive substance.

I am not a smoker of marijuana. I do consume edible gummies because I have difficulty getting to sleep. I have residual pain and nerve damage from being bayoneted.

yup. In my neck, back and chest. I have tried every drug available. Most of the time I John Wayne my way through the discomfort. A baby aspirin in the morning and nothing else until bedtime. Herbal tea, bio feedback, are just two of the ways I have tried to manage the pain and strange numbness.

I can understand how someone could turn to harder drugs for release. Even as I type this message there is an unrelenting cold needle of pain that runs from the base of my neck and down my left arm.

For you CassGrad, I want you to take a safety pin and run it down the back of your arm for the next 18 hours. Not deep enough to bleed but deep enough to hurt. Keep it up. Do not stop.

Now, while poking yourself go carry on a pleasant conversation with someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about.

Make sure that person is always, absolutely right about everything. Yet they know less than zero.

Make sure they are so certain that they will not only spout unworthy opinions as fact, make sure they do it with gusto.

meanwhile never stop stabbing yourself.

[Gistok]

I hope the gummies ease the pain Gnome... a hell of a lot better than being addicted to Vicodin!

When I was younger... I enjoyed a puff now and again. I think the tired old narrative that Marijuana leads to more dangerous drugs mainly applies to people with addictive personalities... and the "reefer madness" naysayers.

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

So the idea is to get Detroiter’s to spend some of their hard earned money on getting high instead of groceries or rent or doctor bills. These are the people who can least afford it. I takes a cold, cold heart to tempt your own neighbors and friends onto buying an addictive substance.

I guess there are a lot of “cold cold hearts” out there selling addictive substances such as cigarettes and alcohol

[1953]

I think One Shot said it perfectly above.

What kind of society are we striving for here?

This project will take as much from Detroit as it ever brings.

1953

[softailrider]

Anyone notice the Marijuana Complex will be across Michigan Ave from the ever-popular Detroit Highwaymen Clubhouse and smoothie bar?

As far as security goes, I do not see how being across from the Highwaymen is going to hurt in the least.

[Richard]

I hope the gummies ease the pain Gnome... a hell of a lot better than being addicted to Vicodin!

When I was younger... I enjoyed a puff now and again. I think the tired old narrative that Marijuana leads to more dangerous drugs mainly applies to people with addictive personalities... and the "reefer madness" naysayers.

It did though,when the war on drugs was declared,the first thing they did was dry up the supply of weed and the weed smokers flipped to coke,because it became readily available.

In the peak H times,the city of Detroit was the 2 nd largest market behind NYC in the country with 1/2 the population.

I am not sure if it leads to harder drugs or it is easier to manipulate the market into a choice of drug.

In the 70s ,Minnesota anyways,it was decriminalized and you could get caught with up to 1/4 lb and as long as you did not have a scale or baggies on you it was usually just dumped out on the ground.

It was not a big deal.

If it is a pain alternative to addictive opioids then I would say,yea flood the market with it,most that I know are in pain management only receives 28 day supply and are screwed if you have a 30 or 31 day month,plus only one member of the household is allowed to receive it,which screws the other members of the family if they also have pain issues.

So they buy it in the streets.

We have not passed the in your face laws yet,but it is in your face everywhere,stop at a stop light,roll down your window and breath deep and it is easy to get a contact high.

Even though it is still illegal here the cops do not mess with small amounts and people have no qualms about being brazen with it.

They still use it as a - I smell weed can I search your car thing.

I used to smoke it and it might not have been uncommon to see 15,000 lbs stacked up,so it is tough for me to be hypocritical of it but even though it is still restricted outside of a easy to get medical use,but there has been a massive uptick of use from the schools on up and not sure if that is because people are doing it because they can.

I think it should be still be a situation of keep it in your house,or at least keep it on the lowdown,which is not happening.

I suspect next the weed commercials will replace the lawyer and car sales prime time.

Back to market manipulation,if the street corner weed sale is eliminated,people still have to make money and the choice of revenue streams are going to switch to alternatives,and the market will be flooded with those alternatives,because it will have to be something that is the next fad after the initial weed honeymoon is over,if we are not careful we may be just setting the stage for something worse.

I think the current attitude about weed itself is setting that stage,it is about creating a more powerful high,it has always been about who has the best stuff,if you are not regulating that ultimate high then there will be others who will up the anti for you.

History proves that when you remove all boundaries,people have none.

Outside of medical use here,gummy’s are illegal,but I see them everywhere,if I can,so can the little kids,what kid can turn down a gummy bear.

[Gistok]

^ Richard... We never experienced "a dry spell". The "rag weed" that was available from Mexico, almost always seemed to get thru. I guess some things never change...

[CassTechGrad]

What is moral licensing?

“As per psychology, moral licensing is the process of fooling ourselves to justify bad behavior using other good behavior. The effect causes people who exhibit good behavior initially to later perform dishonest, unethical, or bad actions later on. Some call the behavior self-licensing.”

I want to smoke marijuana and get high but I know it’s wrong to use addictive narcotics so what am I going to do? I have to find some way to convince myself that smoking pot is OK. Because it makes my other health problems go away, because everyone does it, it’s natural and grows out of the ground so it can’t be bad for you, it’s not as bad as alcohol, at least I’m not smoking crack, people don’t overdose from smoking pot, my friend’s uncle smokes pot all the time and he’s a millionaire, etc.

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

I can't get a sense from the current info whether they're planning to rehab that whole gorgeous front block on Michigan as part of the $175M projection. That part [[especially the corner building that just had a fire) on top of the industrial portion, would be absolutely transformative.

Looking at this just a few blocks up from MCS, and looking at the land just beyond down Michigan Ave where this concept could be repeated, these hyper-local mixed-use campuses feel like the perfect play for reactivating the near west side.

The wxyz story includes “real estate development” as one of the areas they’ll be working in so hopefully that bodes well for the Michigan Ave frontage.

[Richard]

What is moral licensing?

“As per psychology, moral licensing is the process of fooling ourselves to justify bad behavior using other good behavior. The effect causes people who exhibit good behavior initially to later perform dishonest, unethical, or bad actions later on. Some call the behavior self-licensing.”

I want to smoke marijuana and get high but I know it’s wrong to use addictive narcotics so what am I going to do? I have to find some way to convince myself that smoking pot is OK. Because it makes my other health problems go away, because everyone does it, it’s natural and grows out of the ground so it can’t be bad for you, it’s not as bad as alcohol, at least I’m not smoking crack, people don’t overdose from smoking pot, my friend’s uncle smokes pot all the time and he’s a millionaire, etc.

Check put a guy on YouTube called djvlad or Vladtv.com.

He was or is a DJ that does in depth interviews with X mob guys,kingpins and others,lots of real info on WBR there also.

In Detroit specifically there are several dispensary owners that were at the top of the game and well known for it back in the 80s and 90s.

After release from prison this is what they are into now,which is okay because it is legal,my question is,can you take a group of people that played the game in the past,useing any means necessary to stay on top and put them into a soon to be a highly competitive situation and expect different results?

This project reminds me of the Miami skyline that was nothing until the flow of drug money built it,albeit on a smaller scale,the billions of drugs that flowed through the city of Detroit and nobody did nothing to help build the skyline,just left destruction in the wake.

Time will tell if these type of investments will help reverse the past.

I say take advantage of it while it flows,but be under no illusion that it will be the same in the future.

I see mental addiction to weed but not physical,but with the CBD oils,all it takes is a really smart scientist to introduce an additive that would make it addictive.

It would not be the first time something like that has happened.

[stasu1213]

Wow! The leaders of Detroit let a weed factory open but can't allow an Amazon warehouse to open within city limit providing jobs for many of unemployed residents. I would rather see invest in a MicroCenter or a computer motherboard factory within the city limits.

[stasu1213]

How many vitamin stores are there within the city limits? How many health foods stores or farmer markets are there within the city limits? Detroit has a Hookah or Marijuana factory or store almost 2 miles within each other.

[Gistok]

^Last I checked the Amazon warehouse at State Fair Grounds is still online... has that changed?

There's enough space in Detroit to house a million square foot Marijuana complex, and still thousands of acres left over for everything else.

[One Shot]

Not exactly on topic but another bad thing is the amount of "pharmacies" all over the city and suburbs. Big pharma has pushed so many pills and get doctors to prescribe them. These places are drug dealers with lab coats. Open a walk in clinic with an online degree then prescribe every pain pill known to get people addicted and buy from the pharmacy. Its a kickback chain and the public turns into junkie pill poppers. Money and greed over public health and betterment. Nothing new I guess

[Gistok]

Not exactly on topic but another bad thing is the amount of "pharmacies" all over the city and suburbs. Big pharma has pushed so many pills and get doctors to prescribe them. These places are drug dealers with lab coats. Open a walk in clinic with an online degree then prescribe every pain pill known to get people addicted and buy from the pharmacy. Its a kickback chain and the public turns into junkie pill poppers. Money and greed over public health and betterment. Nothing new I guess

I don't disagree that there are too many... there's a CVS, Walgreen and Rite-Aid each 1 mile from me in St. Clair Shores. But I live in a suburb that has a lot of older residents, and it's convenient for them, and most people don't need pain meds. Also, I think that Marijuana dispensaries are going to cut off a lot of pain medication needs.

But 90% of all the CVS, Walgreen and Rite-Aid square footage is NOT pharmacy... and they do provide the household needs of many people.

[Zacha341]

^ Well, speaking of CVS we have fewer of them in the D than before. The one on Woodward near the Qline at West Grand Blvd closed about three years ago. Followed by the one near the Highland Pk border also on Woodward, followed by the one at the Model T Plaza IN highland Pk. Also on Woodward. Along with a Walgreens a stone throw away.

So we indeed have a pharmacy desert just a bit. CVS is high for household items but if you have a loyalty card you can catch their 40% off reducing prices back a bit. Far better than RiteAid or Walgreens.

[Richard]

^ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...or-6-5-billion

Where I am at on a four corner intersection there is a CVS,Walgreens and another drug store in the other corner- every 2 miles.

Behind each one of those is a Winn Dixie,Publix,Wal Mart or other supermarket that also has a pharmacy.

We are just one massive pill popping,weed smoking drug addicted society.

That does not even count the hospitals that have pharmacies,the free clinics that have pharmacies and the VA that has pharmacies.

Why do we need to stay drugged up to cope with society so much?

and if that does not work,we can just go ask Alice.

The taxpayers paid a company 100 million to develop a drug and told everybody if they do not take it they will die,it costs them $17 to produce and ship that drug that they sell for $700.

Over half of the politicians are invested in their stock.

It’s no different then with the weed,there is a massive amount of profit in keeping people drugged up.

Maybe we could tax it in order to fund the schools?