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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    How do you figure this?

    During the 1970's-80's, downtown got a 7 tower complex, including a luxury shopping mall, the tallest hotel in the world, and six office towers. Detroit completely rebuilt the two main shopping corridors, and added a new mall and department store in New Center. Oh, and an elevated rail system alongside a street-running trolley.

    During the 1980's-90's, downtown got multiple trophy office buildings [[including one by Hines, the gold standard in higher end commercial space) a shopping mall in Greektown, three highrise residentials, multiple new hotels, and two huge riverfront developments along Jefferson.

    During the 1990's-00's downtown got two new HQ buildings, three massive casinos, two new stadia, renovated its largest abandoned tower to a luxury hotel, major expansion at Wayne State.

    You can have stuff get built and still struggle. A city as big as Detroit will have development, even if the overall narrative is decline. "But stuff is being built" isn't really a reasonable response to whether or not the city is still declining. Stuff is always being built, whether cities are growing or shrinking.
    There are 2 major differences between the development in downtown that has happened in the last 10 years and the development in the time period of the 1970's to early 2000's.

    1. Yes, there was a decent amount of new development from the '70s to '00s [[Ren Cen, Trolley Plaza), BUT DURING THAT SAME PERIOD A LARGE NUMBER OF buildings WENT DARK - Hotel Tuller, Hotel Statler, Lafayette Building, Hudson's Building, Broderick Building, Whitney Building, Metropolitan Building, Wurlitzter Building, the now demolished 21-story building that was next to the Cadillac Tower, the Monroe Block, the Theaters - Michigan, United Artists, National, Madison, Adams, etc, etc. etc. During the past 10 years, however, only the Book Tower has WENT DARK, and that building has now been purchased by Gilbert for a likely residential conversion.

    2. Downtown's resurgence in the past 10 years is more focused on bringing new residents downtown, while in the previous years it was just about getting office workers and pro sports fans downtown.
    Last edited by masterblaster; April-27-16 at 02:31 PM.

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