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    I don't think people objected as much until they started changing the aesthetics of the park.

    As for this comment by Detroitboy:

    "I wish you people would give it a rest and devote your energy to some other constructive activity. There are plenty of other locations you can adopt that need actual help and everyone would be better served as a result."



    It's funny how this exact argument could be made by the protesters, the irony...

    I mean why cant Penske develop a location that "needs actual help"? Because last time I checked the Isle is a state park now and there is an expectation the park will be rehabbed regardless of a race taking place. The race used to take place on city streets in the past anyways...

    I paid $9 to visit the Isle from out of state, a real steal on a Saturday considering for around $40[[parking/donations) we entered the island, went to the aquarium and conservatory. Spent a few hours. Had that race been going on I wouldn't have set foot anywhere near the place.

    It just seems antiquated to have the thing in what is essentially a nature preserve. I was actually embarrassed regarding the concrete jungle upon entering, reason being I had some first timers on the Isle. I quickly explained the work of Penske on some parts.

    As for the aquarium and conservatory, they are kind of magical in feel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbest View Post
    It just seems antiquated to have the thing in what is essentially a nature preserve.
    What other nature preserve do you know of where people hold family reunion barbeques, play sports, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    What other nature preserve do you know of where people hold family reunion barbeques, play sports, etc.?
    Basically all of them? If you go to, say, Kensington, or Stoney Creek, you obviously see tons of people having bbqs, playing sports, etc.

    Is it because they're BBQing while Black? Better to just shut down the island than let "those people" have family gatherings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    Basically all of them? If you go to, say, Kensington, or Stoney Creek, you obviously see tons of people having bbqs, playing sports, etc.

    Is it because they're BBQing while Black? Better to just shut down the island than let "those people" have family gatherings?
    Belle Isle doesn't appear on the state's list of Nature Reserves.

    Interesting hot take, considering that I'm black and you're not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    Belle Isle doesn't appear on the state's list of Nature Reserves.

    Interesting hot take, considering that I'm black and you're not...
    What are you talking about re. "state list of nature reserves"? What is that?

    Also, what the hell does your race have to do with anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    What are you talking about re. "state list of nature reserves"? What is that?

    Also, what the hell does your race have to do with anything?
    Huh? Those are responses to what you first brought up [[but you already knew that...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    Huh? Those are responses to what you first brought up [[but you already knew that...)
    I have no idea what you're talking about. At no point did I claim that black people are immune from criticism or that Belle Isle is on some non-existent state list of nature preserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    Basically all of them? If you go to, say, Kensington, or Stoney Creek, you obviously see tons of people having bbqs, playing sports, etc.

    Is it because they're BBQing while Black? Better to just shut down the island than let "those people" have family gatherings?
    Not for nothing but the exact opposite of a nature preserve is bbq,playing sports etc.

    Nature preserves by nature are tranquil settings so to have the least impact on nature.

    I thought part of the island was protected?

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