The 'notorious' LBPatterson's OC switched towards defined contribution in the 1990s. Detroit didn't. Orr was still in Pampers. I know some OC workers. They are quite happy with their pension arrangements and have done well with them in spite of the financial ups and downs. Most of those on defined benefit moved over to defined contribution, because it works well. Detroit on the other hand just kept screaming about how defined contribution is a war on the workers.
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