If you were 22-26 yo, would you move to Detroit RIGHT NOW? Why?

[48009]

I think everyone, at least those who are from this area, has realized the need for the city to get back on its feet.

Why is there a "need" to bring Detroit back? Serious question. The region has done well with prosperous suburbs in favor of a bustling city. Entirely plausible we can't have both.

Depending on your definition, it's been more or less gone for 20-50 years. The city is SO far gone, and has been gone for so long, even with BILLIONS in state and federal aid, that it's hard to argue the economic case in favor of further recovery efforts.

[313WX]

The region has done well with prosperous suburbs in favor of a bustling city.

I guess, if you call a stagnant economy with stagnant population growth [[falling from a top 5 metro to now a top 20 metro) "done well."

[48009]

I guess, if you call a stagnant economy with stagnant population growth [[falling from a top 5 metro to now a top 20 metro) "done well."

The city has been a dump for several decades. The burbs were prosperous or "top 5" not even 10 years ago; so yea, the burbs did just fine without Detroit proper.

[313WX]

The city has been a dump for several decades. The burbs were prosperous or "top 5" not even 10 years ago; so yea, the burbs did just fine without Detroit proper.

"Hey, we may not be doing all that great, as we haven't grown a lick since the 1970s and our college-educated children continue to run away from here at a record pace to regions with functioning/vibrant urban cores and mass transit is a foreign concept to us, but sprawl has still done us good in SE Michigan as at least we're better off than hellhole Detoilet!!! They should sell it off to Canada or nuke it, but be sure to keep the Lions, Tigers, Red Wings, Slows BBQ, the Casinos, the DMC, the DIA, and the DWSD. After all, those things belong to everyone in Michigan, not just those lazy, incompetent, corrupt, entitled ""Detroiters", regardless of whatever any silly licensing agreements or Titles say! Move them to the suburbs!!!"

[dtowncitylover]

Why is there a "need" to bring Detroit back? Serious question. The region has done well with prosperous suburbs in favor of a bustling city. Entirely plausible we can't have both.

Depending on your definition, it's been more or less gone for 20-50 years. The city is SO far gone, and has been gone for so long, even with BILLIONS in state and federal aid, that it's hard to argue the economic case in favor of further recovery efforts.

LOL That's cute. No, we have not been fine. We have been stagnant, economically and in population, since the 1970s. The 90s were maybe the best years, but has never as grand as the 1950s.

I would really love to see these BILLIONS in federal aid. Because, I'm pretty sure Michigan gives more to the federal government than it receives.

We live in the USA. The greatest country on earth and we have embarrassed ourselves by letting a city fall into disrepair and dysfunction. But what does the rest of the country, yourself too it seems, say back, "That's your problem, we shouldn't have to deal with it." That's nice, but just be forewarned it can easily happen to your cities as well.

[Hermod]

I would really love to see these BILLIONS in federal aid. Because, I'm pretty sure Michigan gives more to the federal government than it receives.

You get this same biased argument every time this comes up. It is alwayt gross federal taxes paid versus gross federal outlays.


DUHHHH, the portion of taxes paid by the entire US which goes to support the Navy is largely spent in about half-a-dozen places. How are we going to allot the money paid to aircraft carrier crews evenly to all the states? We can't because the carriers are all located in Norfolk and San Diego. Should we base a carrier at Belle Isle to "even things out" for Michigan?

The same goes for Army money which goes to southern states because most of the military bases are there [[the weather is more conducive for outdoor training).

By the same token, a worker at an auto plant pays into social security all his working life. That money is "Michigan outgo to the feds" by your accounting. Said worker then retires and moves to Florida and draws social security which you count as "Florida income from the feds".

You have to look at the pot of money which goes out for locally targeted federal aid and see how that is distributed and whether or not the distribution is fair.