Quote Originally Posted by hortonz View Post
We'll see how well all those "wonderful" urban experiments like Vancouver, Seattle and Manhattan function in a future where everything from capital for new construction to manufactured building components to oil and natural gas become scarce or non-existent and the aging electricity grid begins to wobble and fail. Rome went from being the administrative capital of a giant empire with a population of one million in the first century AD to an agricultural backwater of 15,000 by the 15th century,
Predicting the demise of well-functioning cities in 1,500 years? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Right now, yes, those urban experiments are wonderful, and what differs from Rome is that there's a lot of intelligent people attempting to resolve the scarcity issue rather than living like unsustained gluttons.

When Detroit actually has the wherewithall to implement a curbside recycling program, as a start, then you can start throwing stones.