firstandten, How is Vermont having a single payer plan, which I mentioned twice, more Darwinian than Obamacare? The wording of the 10th Amendment, mentioned in post #13, pretty much rules out the federal government from taking over 1/6 of the economy because broad health care programs, be they Republican or Democratic, are not delegated powers of the federal government. End of story. Either come up with something like Romneycare or Vermont's effort to institute a single payer plan or amend the Constitution to allow the federal government to have Obamacare. We have Badgercare, a limited State program, in Wisconsin for poor people and you have never heard me badmouth it.

As far as other things I mentioned like National debt, NAFTA, obesity, and the hiring of illegal aliens, those are just things that will contribute to costs or the failure of our middle class which is essential to affording anything from cash payments to single payer plans.