Pot bust Chene and Mack

**davewindsor** · August-26-11, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Django

What a waste of resources. When the city finds something legit to bust thats when I want to see him gloat. Ive got nothing against Bing but damn. That op probably brought in millions of dollars to the city to be spent on electricty, water, growing supplies not to mention taking care of a building.

I knew this building before it was sold to the apparent growers and it was kickass, hydronic heating in the floors, wide open loft space, elevator, all mechanical gate and garage door, it was my Barbie Dream House.

So what? I don't think it's a waste of resources. The building can still make money for the city legitimately. The bust brings money to the city and the sale of the building brings money to city. I'm sure these illegal operations aren't paying income taxes. A legitimate operation would. Turning a blind eye to these operations also does nothing to lower the crime rate. And, like the video said, this bust will also provide a lot of leads, which will ultimately help to lower Detroit's high crime rate.

Hopefully, the building is properly secured so that scrappers don't get in there and it can be auctioned off or there's a request for proposal to put some urban farmers or florists in there who can grow legitimate crops like hydroponic roses, flowers or lettuce instead of it getting stripped and knocked down like the old Cass Tech. As long as there are weddings, funerals, and special occasions, there's always a demand for expensive flowers.

If you don't like the laws, contact your congressman. But, I don't see any waste of public funds here and I just don't see how this bust will make the city any worse off.

**Islandman** · August-26-11, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

So what? I don't think it's a waste of resources. The building can still make money for the city legitimately. The bust brings money to the city and the sale of the building brings money to city. I'm sure these illegal operations aren't paying income taxes. A legitimate operation would. Turning a blind eye to these operations also does nothing to lower the crime rate. And, like the video said, this bust will also provide a lot of leads, which will ultimately help to lower Detroit's high crime rate.

Hopefully, the building is properly secured so that scrappers don't get in there and it can be auctioned off or there's a request for proposal to put some urban farmers or florists in there who can grow legitimate crops like hydroponic roses, flowers or lettuce instead of it getting stripped and knocked down like the old Cass Tech. As long as there are weddings, funerals, and special occasions, there's always a demand for expensive flowers.

If you don't like the laws, contact your congressman. But, I don't see any waste of public funds here and I just don't see how this bust will make the city any worse off.

It is a waste of resources when there's so much violent crime going on. I am saying it's not illegal, but I don't think this bust is going to lower the crime rate in the city at all. As reported, most of these people didn't live in the city.

bartock · August-26-11, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Islandman

It is a waste of resources when there's so much violent crime going on. I am saying it's not illegal, but I don't think this bust is going to lower the crime rate in the city at all. As reported, most of these people didn't live in the city.

I'm not talking about you, Islandman, but sometimes I question the motives of some when it comes to the "legalize drugs" crowd.

Anyway, it appears that this MAY become much bigger than just a drug bust:

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110...and-speculator

[[Ooops, sorry SWMAP.)

**davewindsor** · August-26-11, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Islandman

It is a waste of resources when there's so much violent crime going on. I am saying it's not illegal, but I don't think this bust is going to lower the crime rate in the city at all. As reported, most of these people didn't live in the city.

Just because these people don't live in the city doesn't mean that they won't sell to organized crime in the city. What does organized crime do with it? They buy illegal guns. They have shootouts for territory. Members of opposing gangs disappear or it increases the city's outrageously high homicide rate. It'll increase violent crime alright, just like violent crime increased during prohibition. Remember the Purple Gang? The largest group of murderers in the city. Territorial wars. Some of their gang members murdered over 300 people a piece over illegal liquor. They were so violent that Al Capone didn't even want to set foot in Detroit.

Illegal drugs is not different than illegal alcohol in the 30s. If it's a right or wrong issue you're making, take it up with your congressman to legalize it like they did with alcohol, but don't tell me this bullsh-it that these large illegal grow ops don't contribute to Detroit's violent crime and homicide rate. It's not a waste of public resources to get rid of them.

Again, I'm not arguing whether it should be legal or illegal. That's a political issue between you and your congressman. The police are just doing their job. They are not wasting public resources by enforcing the law.

Steve bennet · August-26-11, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

They are not wasting public resources by enforcing the law.

Yes they are. They could have spent all that time and manpower going after real criminals.

**davewindsor** · August-26-11, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Steve bennet

Yes they are. They could have spent all that time and manpower going after real criminals.

Oh really? What about the drug addict who steals someone's GPS or beats someone up or burglerizes a house to buy that pot? What about the drug dealer who shoots his competition and accidentally kills a by-stander with a stray bullet? These crimes are not related? Whatever you say.

**Bigb23** · August-26-11, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

Oh really? What about the drug addict who steals someone's GPS or beats someone up or burglerizes a house to buy that pot? What about the drug dealer who shoots his competition and accidentally kills a by-stander with a stray bullet? These crimes are not related? Whatever you say.

Let me get this right, these people will do all these things, to buy something that you can just plant in some dirt? Or because it's made unavailable to anybody at anytime for any reason, with jail time included? Hell, if I could - I'd just plant the seed and walk away.

**davewindsor** · August-26-11, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bigb23

Let me get this right, these people will do all these things, to buy something that you can just plant in some dirt? .

YES. Welcome to Detroit.

Steve bennet · August-26-11, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

Oh really? What about the drug addict who steals someone's GPS or beats someone up or burglerizes a house to buy that pot? What about the drug dealer who shoots his competition and accidentally kills a by-stander with a stray bullet? These crimes are not related? Whatever you say.

People don't steal GPS units and burglarize houses to buy pot.

Are you fricken serious?

Steve bennet · August-26-11, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

But, I don't see any waste of public funds here and I just don't see how this bust will make the city any worse off.

I don't see how this bust will make the city any better.

With all the violent crime in the city and unsolved murders, you seriously don't think that using police to bust people for growing plants in a waste of funds and resources?

**Danny** · August-26-11, 02:09 PM

Since the most medical marijuana stores are closing down due to lack of showing their licenses, setting up more pot factories illegally will be the next trend. Back in 60s to 90s marijuana was just in the illegal trade and traffic from cartels of Pan-America to the U.S. now everyone can grow pot from their very own home. We have tried to legalize pot for over 50 years but lawmakers refused because marijuana can leave people stoned for life and sucking up money from insurance companies and corporations.

WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

You can thank the hippie movement for making pot available to anyone who loves to smoke and get high.

Neda, I miss you so.

**Django** · August-26-11, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

So what? I don't think it's a waste of resources. The building can still make money for the city legitimately. The bust brings money to the city and the sale of the building brings money to city. I'm sure these illegal operations aren't paying income taxes. A legitimate operation would. Turning a blind eye to these operations also does nothing to lower the crime rate. And, like the video said, this bust will also provide a lot of leads, which will ultimately help to lower Detroit's high crime rate.

Hopefully, the building is properly secured so that scrappers don't get in there and it can be auctioned off or there's a request for proposal to put some urban farmers or florists in there who can grow legitimate crops like hydroponic roses, flowers or lettuce instead of it getting stripped and knocked down like the old Cass Tech. As long as there are weddings, funerals, and special occasions, there's always a demand for expensive flowers.

If you don't like the laws, contact your congressman. But, I don't see any waste of public funds here and I just don't see how this bust will make the city any worse off.

Sure the building can still make money but I doubt it, not 18 million in two years anyway. How much of that 18 mill was spent here in the city? Dont get me wrong, Id rather see small mom and pop type grow ops rather than this big greed type operation but still I find it a waste of time.
I rode by today and found about a dozen cop cars and city vehicles, all of whom could be out fighting violent crime. BTW, what crime are you talking about? Legit crime or BS crime like growing pot?

This bust was a waste of public resources like I said. Id rather see those cops out on the street tracking down who broke into my Ex's house the past three times, or who the hell cut up my friends in the Corridor last month.

Keeping drugs illegal just keeps their sale dangerous when it could be regulated. I mentioned in another thread this month about the two kids I know that were shot in the face and killed, one of them 16 yrs old because they were selling dope out of a house the next block over. My point is, more ppl die over drugs than by drugs.

They knew they should have turned a blind eye but they couldnt help themselves from getting in the spotlight.

Did the barbershop next door have any problems with them? I highly doubt it, and they didnt mention any.

Its not clear yet if this was a legal grow which dealt with dispensaries or not, but if it was they would be paying taxes. I am curious to know how the electric bill was dealt with. If they stole the electric they should be charged with doing so.
As far as contacting my congressman, I do, I do a lot more than that when it comes to fighting the war on drugs.