Painting Detroit

[johnkuhnphoto]

Seriously, you are terrible, who goes around vandalizing the city for shits and giggles? Right… some rich kid from the suburbs who went to Country Day then CCS on his parents’ dime, and was then so bored that he started destroying himself and the city as a hobby/career. You shoot ruin porn, but unlike most people, you don’t just study the decay that is happening, you destroy it further. I don’t doubt you rent a space in the city, but I doubt you will ever be a property owner here, you will never raise you kids here, your just here to play and it’s horrible. Please get out of my city.

last time i checked i don't shoot ruin porn. and im not doing this project for shits and giggles. and yes im looking at getting a property in the city, but i do currently rent. if you feel that strongly about nothing happening to the numerous abandoned buildings, they why don't you go and do something about it instead of sitting on the internet and just complaining?

[DetroitPole]

You have no more right to throw paint all over public spaces and private property in Detroit than I would in your rich Oakland County suburb.

You know what I did with a vacant structure in Detroit? I bought it. I live in it. I pay my taxes. What a fucking concept, right? That is doing something about it. Too bad you didn't get to throw your paint all over my house and ruin it before someone with some work ethic and respect for others got to move in and fix it up like a decent person, right?
You're a child who has no respect for anyone elses' property. Typical for rich children like you - you've been handed everything in life so you don't know the value of anything and you're bored stupid, and just plain stupid to boot, and this is what the world gets as a result. Some of us didn't have it so easy that we went to Country Day and CCS and got to fuck around and make other people miserable all the time.

I am an art lover and a photographer myself. What you do is artistic, but you have no right to be doing it to what is not yours, and subjecting other people to it.

Buy one of these spaces in Detroit and do whatever you want to it. Then you can call it art, and it is rightfully yours. If you were really talented you could get a grant - there are substantial ones out there - but alas, that would require real work, not just vandalism justified in the name of art.

You make me sick, and I know who you are. You would be extremely wise to watch your back. It is dangerous out there. And the lawlessness doesn't apply simply to throwing paint around. With the slow police response times sometimes us tax-paying residents have to resort to vigilante justice.

You go around vandalizing one of the world's most dangerous cities and you're on facebook...and everyone can see who your girlfriend is...and what you look like...for all that fancy education, you are still as dumb as shit, you know that?

[East Detroit]

Who forgot to instill decent values? Joellyn?

[johnkuhnphoto]

Who forgot to instill decent values? Joellyn?

whos that?

[East Detroit]

whos that?

The 63 yr old Owner of the Accounting firm at the same address you registered your websites to. Also has the same last name as you.

So, again, is it okay for us to tag that accounting firm on Telegraph if we don't like the building?

Also, how about that place on Miller Way?

[East Detroit]

No, actually you are far from correct. There are many active preservationists here as well as citizens of the City of Detroit doing their part.

[johnkuhnphoto]

No, actually you are far from correct. There are many active preservationists here as well as citizens of the City of Detroit doing their part.

thats why i asked people. and i think we got one response so i think my point is still valid.

[johnkuhnphoto]

The 63 yr old Owner of the Accounting firm at the same address you registered your websites to. Also has the same last name as you.

So, again, is it okay for us to tag that accounting firm on Telegraph if we don't like the building?

Also, how about that place on Miller Way?

sure... go for it
even though thats not what im doing... but if it floats ur boat then go for it

[East Detroit]

You make me sick, and I know who you are. You would be extremely wise to watch your back. It is dangerous out there. And the lawlessness doesn't apply simply to throwing paint around. With the slow police response times sometimes us tax-paying residents have to resort to vigilante justice.

I heard that Turdl already has an APB on him.

[johnkuhnphoto]

I heard that Turdl already has an APB on him.

sounds like you agree with what he is doing.

[johnkuhnphoto]

You have no more right to throw paint all over public spaces and private property in Detroit than I would in your rich Oakland County suburb.

You know what I did with a vacant structure in Detroit? I bought it. I live in it. I pay my taxes. What a fucking concept, right? That is doing something about it. Too bad you didn't get to throw your paint all over my house and ruin it before someone with some work ethic and respect for others got to move in and fix it up like a decent person, right?
You're a child who has no respect for anyone elses' property. Typical for rich children like you - you've been handed everything in life so you don't know the value of anything and you're bored stupid, and just plain stupid to boot, and this is what the world gets as a result. Some of us didn't have it so easy that we went to Country Day and CCS and got to fuck around and make other people miserable all the time.

I am an art lover and a photographer myself. What you do is artistic, but you have no right to be doing it to what is not yours, and subjecting other people to it.

Buy one of these spaces in Detroit and do whatever you want to it. Then you can call it art, and it is rightfully yours. If you were really talented you could get a grant - there are substantial ones out there - but alas, that would require real work, not just vandalism justified in the name of art.

You make me sick, and I know who you are. You would be extremely wise to watch your back. It is dangerous out there. And the lawlessness doesn't apply simply to throwing paint around. With the slow police response times sometimes us tax-paying residents have to resort to vigilante justice.

You go around vandalizing one of the world's most dangerous cities and you're on facebook...and everyone can see who your girlfriend is...and what you look like...for all that fancy education, you are still as dumb as shit, you know that?

cuz im the one who acts as if they are still in high school? trying to scare people? i will buy a space in detroit and if i dont, its still art...

i dont live in oakland county anyways. so yes, do what you want, its your choice

and yes, im going through the grant process right now.

so it makes you a better person because you didnt go to the schools that i did?

what building did you buy?

before they fix it up? really? most the ways to save pretty much every building is to tear it down and rebuild it. they are not structurally safe... the people who were around when they went abandoned had the chance to save them or preserve them and they didnt do anything. just saying.

[detr0itkid]

last time i checked i don't shoot ruin porn. and im not doing this project for shits and giggles. and yes im looking at getting a property in the city, but i do currently rent. if you feel that strongly about nothing happening to the numerous abandoned buildings, they why don't you go and do something about it instead of sitting on the internet and just complaining?

You shoot ruin porn with paint on it.
I own and am currently renovating both a house in North Corktown and a storefront w/ apartment above in South West Detroit. I’m spending a lot of money on both projects. Both had stolen plumbing, leaky roofs, had most of the windows smashed out/boarded up, and sat abandoned for extended periods of time. The house has been protected as I have fenced it in, have dogs living there and I am there daily. The store which had a fire is being renovated from the inside out, and has been a different story. Kids who don’t know shit about shit have tagged the exterior on multiple occasions, making it look more neglected than it is. Shortly there after crack heads who also don’t know shit about shit then came and stole my electrical service from the pole. I’m invested in the city. I know lots of people in the city with similar situations with similar good intentions. Yes, the idea is to eventually see a profit, but we’re well aware that there is a good chance we will loose money in the end. Every small bit of vandalism to our properties cuts into the small budget we have. Every bit of the city that is vandalized helps to perpetuate a negative image and bring down everyone’s property value. You are doing nothing good.
I also am an active member of my community and even though I am well tied up in my two personal projects I still donate time and money to other community revitalization efforts when I can. Try to get involved in something positive, you might realize the actual damage you do with your “art.”

[laurie1st]

detr0itkid: I couldn't agree more. Speaking as a property owner, as well as a person who actively participates in renovation and revitilization efforts, I do not believe that this particular effort is doing anything good for Detroit or Detroiters. It is not creating a "culture and environment of creation", or whatever that BS was. Instead it is perpetuating a culture and environment of crime, destruction, and blight.

This is not what I want in my community, speaking as a Real Detroiter, as opposed to someone who has moved here on Daddy's dime, and will likely bail back to Bingham Farms at the first opportunity. Detroit is not a playgorund for lawlessness and destruction, even if you call it "art". Methinks that the "artist" would not ever dream of painting a vacant building in his hometown, and I think that says a lot.

[ruffsicle]

You shoot ruin porn with paint on it.
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] I own and am currently renovating both a house in North Corktown and a storefront w/ apartment above in South West Detroit. I’m spending a lot of money on both projects. Both had stolen plumbing, leaky roofs, had most of the windows smashed out/boarded up, and sat abandoned for extended periods of time. The house has been protected as I have fenced it in, have dogs living there and I am there daily. The store which had a fire is being renovated from the inside out, and has been a different story. Kids who don’t know shit about shit have tagged the exterior on multiple occasions, making it look more neglected than it is. Shortly there after crack heads who also don’t know shit about shit then came and stole my electrical service from the pole.

No where in any of these photos did John "tag" a building that had an owner like you. No one is renovating these properties. These are not homes where people actually live. If they were taken care, of he wouldn't be able to just walk right through the door. John has taken nothing of value from these buildings. He isn't going to cause someone to go out and buy expensive replacement parts. Paint fades and can be washed off. He has already expressed a willingness to come powerwash it off. Im sorry but no one is going to buy the packard plant as an investment. I think we can all agree that these most of these buildings are abandoned because they were in some way unsafe for normal use. Asbestos, structural damage, fire damage. A couple of gallons of paint is not what's stopping investors. The buildings are.

[Richard]

No where in any of these photos did John "tag" a building that had an owner like you. No one is renovating these properties. These are not homes where people actually live. If they were taken care, of he wouldn't be able to just walk right through the door. John has taken nothing of value from these buildings. He isn't going to cause someone to go out and buy expensive replacement parts. Paint fades and can be washed off. He has already expressed a willingness to come powerwash it off. Im sorry but no one is going to buy the packard plant as an investment. I think we can all agree that these most of these buildings are abandoned because they were in some way unsafe for normal use. Asbestos, structural damage, fire damage. A couple of gallons of paint is not what's stopping investors. The buildings are.

Wow can I hire you as an investment counselor as it seems you are much more skilled at appraising properties and whether they are worth rehabilitating then the experts I had to pay in order to buy one of those properties that you are saying nobody is going to buy.

I have my numbers where are yours to back this statement up?

Just like the bs about offering the city $70 grand to the city for the school ,the city cannot sell the school it is owned by DPS the city is just the collector of the funds for DPS and they will not sell a school without covenants in place not to make it into another school as in charter school , the taxpayers payed for that school why should it be sold to private enterprise to compete against DPS.

Did your friends turn those covenants in with their offer to DPS? If they did then post it here because then it could be used in a valid way other then trying to drag the city through the mud using an argument that they have no control over.