What is the point of this thread? Arguing about obscure facts and continuously ranting/shouting about how crappy HP is [[like people in this niche forum don’t already know). Sometimes the negativity of this place is toxic; you would think instead of being called DetroitYES! this place is called DetroitNO!

If you can’t focus on anything but all that is wrong in the region, why nothing is going to work, revitalization is going to fail because x/y/z, why are you here? It’s like reading “Old Man Yells at Clouds” over and over.