Quote Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner View Post
Bham is correct. Even 'successful high dollar downtowns' don't compete with the malls and big boxes anymore.

Retail is defined as the selling of goods. Diners and Pubs provide a service and are not retail establishments. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/retail
So the goal of the discussion is to compare two incomparable things? Yeah, good luck with that.