Metro Detroit now smaller than Phoenix?

[Bham1982]

Metro Cleveland actually has the worst population loss in the nation, and is shrinking while Metro Detroit is growing, yet Cleveland has had rapid transit for many decades, including a heavy rail line through the best neighborhoods, which extends to the airport. Cleveland also has far more regional cooperation, including regional transit, libraries, parks, and planning. IMO, Detroit's ills are much more complicated than lack of transit [[or lack of regionalism).