I've had it with Slows!

**izzyindetroit** · May-18-09, 02:49 PM

You know there are some people that have had it with Slow's. His business ethics can be a touchy subject in Corktown, just ask a couple of the people working at the Mana Meals soup kitchen in St. Peter's.

**SWMAP** · May-18-09, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by izzyindetroit

You know there are some people that have had it with Slow's. His business ethics can be a touchy subject in Corktown, just ask a couple of the people working at the Mana Meals soup kitchen in St. Peter's.

Do you mean the guy who opened Le Petit Zinc in Corktown and credits Phil with helping him negotiate all the barriers that the City put in his way? Or maybe you mean the activists who are so terrified of gentrification that they are always bad-mouthing the Cooleys for investing in the neighborhood? The people who want the neighborhood to house only poor people
Is Bill Kellerman is talking talking bad about Cooley?

**Lowell** · May-18-09, 06:42 PM

Live from Slows! I got in with little wait ... Still packed even on a Monday night. Woohoo.

**vintagesoul** · May-18-09, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by mbshan

Whatever happened to the carry out only that they were going to open on Cass in midtown? I would love for this to still be happening.

Oh please please please! I hope so too... as I much as I love going in there and having a beer while I wait, sometimes it's just not possible to get their delicious food to go because of how busy they are serving those who are sitting down to eat... it would be fantastic to be able to call ahead and pick up some of that delicious pork/brisket/macncheese. Oh boy...I'm drooling all over my keyboard...lol.

**casscorridor** · May-18-09, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by mbshan

Whatever happened to the carry out only that they were going to open on Cass in midtown? I would love for this to still be happening.

I haven't heard anything on this lately, I'd ask an owner or manager at Slows. But I think it was suppose to go on the first floor of Willy's Overland Lofts on Willis between Cass and Second. That would be rad!

As far as Slow's business practices... having exploitative conditions is not acceptible. But is that reason to kick one of the only succesfull businesses out? I don't think so. It is great to have thriving places like this. We need more of them. But we also don't want places that make a big profit but don't give anything to their workers.

One of the main reasons why Mercury Coffee Bar closed was their treatment of workers... hiring way to many, giving them little to no hours, etc. Let's hope they open back up with new practices.

**rjlj** · May-19-09, 12:02 AM

Could this be the thread that kills Slow's, just like the thread that killed Zacarro's or the one that nearly killed Eph's?
As far as the second location, the credit market and really tightened up and hinders things like this. Cash is king and there is not a lot of it around.
As far as business ethics go, it is pretty shitty to flame someone and have nothing to back it up. Do you prefer the pawn shop to me the busiest business on the block? As always, Detroit's worst enemy is it's own citizens.

**nickstone** · May-19-09, 01:36 AM

amen and I'm sure ur just saying congrats... SW detroit is looking really good lately!!

**ghettopalmetto** · May-19-09, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by xstigmatax

Yeah because Detroit has been doing a unique style of BBQ forever right?

Come on, Detroit is not the capitol of EVERYTHING. Last I checked, as much as I think sauce ruins BBQ, it is still called KC Masterpiece, not Detroit Masterpiece. KC is THE place to go for Pork and has history to back it up.

You might as well call Detroit the pizza capitol too while you are at it

You're partially correct. Putting a rack of ribs on a 55-gallon drum grill does not make one a BBQ capital. It also doesn't make you barbecue, since you're cooking over the high heat of a grill.

Kansas City style? It's a joke. Take any old meat of your choosing, and use ridiculously liberal amounts of a version of Lexington-style sauce [[available in a plastic bottle at any old grocery store coast-to-coast), and that's barbeque???

KC barbeque has only been around for about 100 years. And I'm sure you'd find many Southerners laugh at your assertion that KC is the "the place to go" for pork.

gravitymachine · May-19-09, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by casscorridor

IAs far as Slow's business practices... having exploitative conditions is not acceptible.

proof? or is this just the result of someone complaining how their food service job involves hard work, long hours and meager wages? [[as if they usually didn't)

dexterferry · May-19-09, 08:59 AM

I don't think anyone ever said Slows exploits it's workers.

Someone above mentioned that there are a bunch of bitter, ultralefty idiots in corktown and swdetroit who think operating a wildly successful business in detroit and wanting that strip of Michigan ave. to be something more than just a string of abandoned storefronts and soup kitchens is. . .gasp. . . "gentrification." I wish all the anti-gentrification people would move to east st. louis or gary indiana. I'm sure they would love it there. they could start a thriving community of anti-gentrifyers, with art galleries and coffee shops with "spoken word" nights and speeches about diversity and soup kitchens and special alleys for crackheads to defecate in and hookers to blow their johns without gentrifying hipsters to get upset about it! that is, until the yuppies move in and ruin everything.

**SWMAP** · May-19-09, 09:06 AM

I didn't say that I'm against gentrification _ I'm all for it [[as I am an example of it and I'd like to see more. You mis-read my comments. i was writing to Izzy and being alittle sarcastic at his post that the workers at the Manna Kitchen think poorly of Slows, for whatever reason. Go back and re-read.

dexterferry · May-19-09, 09:16 AM

I think we're on the same side. I am sure we know the same annoying people who get so upset any time someone tries to do something nice in Detroit.

**jackie5275** · May-20-09, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Retroit

If it weren't, they'd have called it Fasts!

Smartee pants :-) LOL

**1KielsonDrive** · May-20-09, 09:11 PM

Some people at DY think if you say something critical, negative or unnice about a business, place or the city, it's sabotaged. So what if Eph's, the MCB or Detroit was mentioned in a less than flattering manner? A lot others post their support. If Detroit and it's businesses can't survive negative comments here at DY, it's not worth surviving. The criticism or praise they get's here makes very little difference. The whole point of this website is to talk about stuff, no matter if it's called DetroitYes. I've been in and around the city all of my life. The worst offenders are the 'Don't say nothing bad' people, because they won't listen to any reason. They do the greatest disservice to Detroit. Negative nabobs [[I borrowed that from Spiro) need to go, live and hangout somewhere else if they see no good in Detroit, it's people and businesses. But criticism is another thing.

**Danny** · May-21-09, 12:06 PM

Slows B.B.Q. is one of Corktown hot popular spots in Corktown. If you all want to eat there, make sure a have a early reservation.

SteveJ · December-18-11, 09:17 AM

I've been to slows a few times and liked it but then I discovered RedSmoke and it just blows it away. The pulled pork, mac and cheese, and the cornbread are just off the charts.

**Zacha341** · December-18-11, 09:49 AM

I've only had Slows ala events they catered so the waiting was not an issue, but the food was great! I suppose I will try the carry out option near Midtown. Where's Redsmoke?

Originally Posted by SteveJ

I've been to slows a few times and liked it but then I discovered RedSmoke and it just blows it away. The pulled pork, mac and cheese, and the cornbread are just off the charts.

**texorama** · December-18-11, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by detroitbob

IMHO [[and after my first career = 25 years working in the restaurant business) they do food very well, and although the service can be, kindly, very unprofessional at times, overall it's a great spot. It's hard to teach people how to wait tables, even in a casual service restaurant, when their only dining experience while growing up involved a drive thru window and microwaved whatever. I ignore the service glitches and continue to crave the pork.

It's funny ... one time I went there and my server completely disappeared for about half an hour. I was getting ready to chalk it up as another example of the good food/bad service phenomenon, and then she came out and said, "Sorry—they had a rush in the kitchen, and I had to help out." Obviously the food is an explicit priority, and given the choice between good food and good service, I will take the food every time!

**Zacha341** · December-18-11, 10:38 AM

All hands on deck I suppose... I've got to go there to see what all the 'hub-bub' is about. Perhaps I will try Wednesday around 2:55 PM to get in? LOL!

Originally Posted by texorama

It's funny ... one time I went there and my server completely disappeared for about half an hour. I was getting ready to chalk it up as another example of the good food/bad service phenomenon, and then she came out and said, "Sorry—they had a rush in the kitchen, and I had to help out." Obviously the food is an explicit priority, and given the choice between good food and good service, I will take the food every time!

**texorama** · December-18-11, 10:51 AM

That's when I go. Midafternoon weekdays when I can get away.

SteveJ · December-18-11, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

I've only had Slows ala events they catered so the waiting was not an issue, but the food was great! I suppose I will try the carry out option near Midtown. Where's Redsmoke?

In Greektown

**mikeg19** · December-18-11, 01:04 PM

Whenever I've been, and that's probably once a month or so, it's always a 1-2 hour wait according to the hostess, but my group is always seated in less then 45 minutes. So walk up to the bar, grab a drink, and the time goes by fast. What's the deal with their expansion? I've seen progress being made. Any date on when they are to open that up?