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    Slight Modification: Unless you have a 3.5 GPA from any university - your degree is worthless. If you have the grades, the institution is irrelevant. Talent always rises to the top.
    All three of these sentences are false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnome View Post
    Rev. David Murry is a proud grad as is Otis Mathis.

    Right there is ample evidence to support the raising of admission standards.
    gnome, Rev. David Murray is also a UM [[yes Ann Arbor) graduate. So what does that do to your argument? I've met plenty of WSU grads that can run circles around lots of UM grads.

    While I think that WSU should raise its standards a bit, I think it also needs to be careful that it doesn't become a UM or MSU where you have to become a professional student to take any degree program. One of the great things about Wayne is that you can work and take many of their degree programs. I did my Master's at WSU because that's all that would work for me and my family. I could have gone to UM [[and was asked to) but with a mortgage and two kids at the time, being a full-time student wasn't an option. I got as good of an education in my degree program at Wayne as any fellow professionals and co-workers I've met who graduated from the more "prestigious" programs.

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    I am presently a student at WSU. I believe the blame should not fall squarely on students. I transfered from MCC and expected more bang for my buck when I went to WSU. Some of my professors were truely gifted, but several have been either too short on their own knowldege of the subject, used their platform as a megaphone for for their soap-box ideals, or were completely disorganized.

    When I was laid off in Jan. 2008, I along with many others went back to school to retrain for new careers. Some gave up for opportunities in other states, others could not afford to continue due to financial or family circumstances.

    I believe the Counseling Center should reach out to struggling students, [[maybe refer them back to the community colleges to strengthen their remedial skills), and work with their curriculum or workload to help bring up graduation rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Det_ard View Post



    The low admissions standards at WSU drives better students away. .
    ...and so do the support staff. I have been trying [[for what seems like forever and a day) to get information about applying to the graduate social work program and I can't get anyone to respond.

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    It has been a lot of years, but when i was in college [[57-61), we had a selective admissions process [[I barely got in) and my class went from 360 down to 170 by graduation. No one seemed at all concerned by the attrition. The general attitude from students and faculty was that the guys that dropped out "just couldn't hack it".

    Since I graduated, no one has given the least importance to my grades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roq View Post
    ...and so do the support staff. I have been trying [[for what seems like forever and a day) to get information about applying to the graduate social work program and I can't get anyone to respond.
    Yes, the support staff is brutal trying to get into any graduate program at WSU.

    I had to arrange a one on one meeting with the department head of the program I'm hoping to transfer to for the fall. Since then the department has been very responsive. You might want to try that.

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