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Lorax · August-24-09, 08:04 PM

Very good, Batts, just what I was thinking.

However with a different end in mind, of course.

The investigations into the Bush Crime Family, now with a special prosecutor appointed, will perhaps stop all the lying on the right about health care.

Let's see in the next week or so if the bullshit fomented on the right tamps down, while the investigations ramp up.

Quid pro quo at it's bare knuckle best!

ccbatson · August-24-09, 08:09 PM

You have no clue who is lying about health care and the immensity of what is at stake.

Here are some clues. Why rush 1000 page bills that nobody has read through quickly? What logic tells someone to take a financial failure about to threaten the entire economy in debt [[Medicare) and model another many trillions of dollars bill after it? What do such people hope to gain and at whose expense?

Lorax · August-24-09, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

You have no clue who is lying about health care and the immensity of what is at stake.

Here are some clues. Why rush 1000 page bills that nobody has read through quickly? What logic tells someone to take a financial failure about to threaten the entire economy in debt [[Medicare) and model another many trillions of dollars bill after it? What do such people hope to gain and at whose expense?

If anything you've said was true, I would agree. However, it's not, and lying about it seems your only recourse.

Enough people have read the proposed bill, incomplete as it is. I have read most of it myself, as have millions of others online who support it. Those that don't support it lie about it. So I know they haven't been reading.

Medicare is a successful program, until Rethuglicans raid the trust for other purposes, starting with Reagan. Just like Social Security, raiding the trust fund is why these programs are at a lack of subsidy, no other reason. There will be funds transferred from ended waste, leaving Iraq, etc.

There's going to be a paradigm shift in the way this country operates, I would suggest getting used to it.

**Jimaz** · August-25-09, 03:30 PM

Attachment 2846
Government's Role in Healthcare Reform

According to Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, Democrats are losing the battle because they haven't attacked private enterprise, even though the GOP is working tirelessly to show that government-run programs simply don't work. Mike Papantonio debates the issue on "Cavuto" on Fox Business Network.

**Jimaz** · August-25-09, 03:48 PM

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Social Security Scare Tactics

The GOP is once again using their Social Security scare tactics to convince Americans that this program is no longer working, and that any attempt to revamp our healthcare system will fail in the same way. What they fail to mention is the fact that the program is running out of money because George W. Bush borrowed more than $1.5 trillion dollars from the trust fund to pay for his war. Mike Papantonio appears on Fox Business' "Cavuto" to set the record straight.

ccbatson · August-25-09, 04:15 PM

Social security, like Medicare, is running purely on credit. Meaning that the UNFUNDED liabilities are being paid with loans, and the escalating bill [[not including the interest on the loans) is into the many trillions.

It isn't dying, it is dead and sucking the life out of the living after its' death.

**Jimaz** · August-25-09, 04:18 PM

Total duration 17 minutes:

Attachment 2848
The GOP's Healthcare Lies

If you've been listening to the radical right wing fringe in this country, you probably believe that healthcare reform means that illegal immigrants will get free healthcare, senior citizens will have to appear before death panels who will determine their fate, and that to pay for the new program, you'll be facing tax increases that will put all of us in the poor house. Any rational person can identify these as lies, but as polls are showing, the majority of Americans have abandoned rational thought. Mike Papantonio of Air America's Ring of Fire wades through the lies coming from the GOP and provides us with the truth about healthcare reform with Eric Boehlert, a senior fellow with Media Matters for America.

Myths and falsehoods about health care reform

ccbatson · August-25-09, 04:21 PM

If Obama can count the 12 million illegals in his 47 million uninsured stat that he spews, then we must logically conclude that in the process of extending coverage to the uninsured as is the aim of this bill, those illegals will be included. Furthermore, there is a very easy solution for Obama on this issue....Amnesty...can't say that you are covering illegals if they are no longer illegal.

**Jimaz** · August-26-09, 03:16 PM

Attachment 2856
Guidance for the Public

Tribute areas honoring Senator Kennedy are being set up at The John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum in Boston, the JFK Museum in Hyannis, Massachusetts and Senator Kennedy’s Washington Office, 317 Russell Senate Building in Washington D.C. In lieu of flowers, the family has requested donations be made to educational programming at the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the United States Senate.

If you would like to share your thoughts and memories online, please visit www.tedkennedy.org.

Lorax · August-26-09, 03:24 PM

If Social Security or Medicare are running low on funds, it's solely because Rehtuglicans have routinely raided the trust funds since Reagan- and have done so with impunity.

They just cant let all the green sit there and not want to get their greedy little grubby hands on it. Blame them for unfunded mandates, and tax the shit out of corporate America to make up the difference, since it was their fault the economy where all that money was invested in went belly up.

ccbatson · August-26-09, 03:25 PM

Hopefully, the left will not try to use his death to further their evil agenda.

**Jimaz** · August-26-09, 03:47 PM

Attachment 2857
The Truth About Fiji Water

Fiji Water is America's leading imported bottled water. Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Diddy, even President Obama are happy customers. But would they be if they knew the truth about Fiji Water?

Read Anna Lenzer's full report, "Fiji Water: Spin the Bottle", at Mother Jones.

Produced by Matthew Filipowicz for The Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute.

The Investigative Fund also provided support for Anna Lenzer's original reporting on Fiji Water.

ccbatson · August-26-09, 03:48 PM

What if? They would choose freely to buy that brand, or any other brand as is their right to choose.

**Jimaz** · August-26-09, 06:17 PM

Attachment 2858

Who's Funding Healthcare Opposition?

With the almost identical disruptions occurring at town hall meetings across the country, you have to wonder who is behind all of these synchronized attacks. Well, it isn't that hard to find out with a little digging, and a lot of these folks can be traced back to a group called Conservatives for Patients' Rights, led by a man named Rick Scott. Mike Papantonio of Air America's Ring of Fire gives all the details in this week's "Pap Attack."

**Jimaz** · August-27-09, 05:12 PM

Total duration 15 minutes:

Attachment 2875
Eric Holder's Next Move

Recently we saw a glimmer of hope come out of the Justice Department when Attorney General Eric Holder announced that he would be starting a preliminary review of the CIA to see if any of their operatives broke the law by torturing suspected terrorists. The big question though is whether or not this review is going to actually lead anywhere or if Holder is once again going to let these people go free just like he's done with the entire Bush Administration. Mike Papantonio talks about what Holder needs to do to really show that he's done being soft on crime with author and investigative journalist John Nichols.

**Jimaz** · August-27-09, 08:35 PM

Attachment 2880
Glenn Beck's Advertiser Exodus

With all of the insanity and ignorance flowing from the GOP it's hard to keep track of every misstep that they take. That's why we've got comedian and cartoonist Matt Filipowicz who keeps a close eye on the lunacy of the Right and uses their own ignorance against them with his cartoons and comedy routines. He recently sat down with Mike Papantonio to run through some of the most absurd stories coming from the traditional media over the last few weeks.

Color of Change

**Jimaz** · August-27-09, 09:58 PM

Attachment 2881
Glenn Beck Talks To Sarah Palin About Obama's Secret Army

Glenn Beck speaks to Sarah Palin, who told all her friends on Facebook to watch Glenn's Fox News show, about Obama's "secret army".

ccbatson · August-27-09, 11:35 PM

What a series of revealing programs Glen Beck has put on this week. I kind of miss his usual humor replaced by the serious tone of this series on corruption in the Obama administration....but it is serious stuff.

**Jimaz** · August-28-09, 07:46 PM

Attachment 2890
Fire Rove's Prosecutors

Karl Rove performs his stand-up comedy routine where he says that Obama has politicized the Justice Department and consolidated power in the Executive branch.

Help Governor Don Siegelman out by visiting his new website, FireRovesProsecutors.com.

ccbatson · August-29-09, 12:11 AM

Obama has had the least impact on the judicial branch. However, he has the legislative branch wrapped around his finger. So much for checks and balances.

**Jimaz** · August-31-09, 04:07 PM

Attachment 2914
Obama Continues Bush's "Laptop Search" Policy

President Obama is asked about his continuation of George W Bush's policy allowing border agents to seize, search and copy entire hard drives off laptop computers without probably cause or reasonable suspicion.

**Jimaz** · August-31-09, 05:05 PM

Total duration 30 minutes:

Attachment 2915

Ring of Fire Salutes Ted Kennedy

With the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy this week, Ring of Fire's Mike Papantonio and guest host David Bender talk about the legacy of Senator Kennedy, and they also engage in a light-hearted debate about whether or not any modern politician would be able [[or even have the courage) to fill the void being left by a true American patriot.

ccbatson · August-31-09, 06:03 PM

Gosh, I hope nobody fills that void.

**Jimaz** · September-01-09, 06:07 PM

Attachment 2927
Jon Voight's New Political Prostitute Role

Jon Voight has managed to go from an award-winning, respected actor to yet another has-been celebrity spokesman for the GOP. This seems to be a growing trend among Hollywood-types who find their once bright stars starting to fade into obscurity. Mike Papantonio talks about the sad decline of this and other actors who have been reduced to nothing more than GOP talking heads.