New Republican Lies

**Zacha341** · March-11-12, 07:30 AM

Yep, he who has the highest pile of chips has the 'staying' power at the casino....

Reform? Will that include items such as the 1 MIL from Bill Maher's contribution [[Priorities USA) to president Obama's presidential campaign? --

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Or just the repubs stacks of dollars?

http://www.theprogressiveprofessor.com/?p=17763
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...practical.html

Originally Posted by maxx

Thank you, Capt. Obvious. Big oil, big coal, big pharma and any other huge corporation. The answer: campaign finance reform. Get big money out of our elections.

**maxx** · March-12-12, 11:56 AM

Of course, campaign finance reform would mean everyone. And Bill Maher's million looks mighty paltry next to what some Rep. sugar daddies have been putting out. It's like when someone talks about corporate campaign contributions and union contributions in the same breath. They are hardly the same thing.

**Zacha341** · March-12-12, 12:50 PM

Well 1 MIL will always be useful - and usually 'noted' should it come up short in ones checking or savings account.

Mahers' contribution may 'look' paltry.

It may not be in the scheme of things.

I wonder if a 'tally' of such PAC contributions is out there? One not from the repubs [[and therefore dismissable) or the dems. Simply a factual bipartisan list of contributors. Period.

It would be interesting to see how those millions start to stack up... A million here, a million there....

**maxx** · March-12-12, 01:51 PM

This article points up a number of Rep. lies.

http://www.michiganradio.org/post/re...ti-union-bills

Republicans complete action on two anti-union bills

Even when John Engler was governor, the announcement of a major effort by the unions to change the playing field would have been countered strategically, and there would have been a rapid dialing down of anything designed to further inflame tensions.
Not today, however. The Republicans who control the legislature are determined to ram their agenda through, whatever the reaction, and whatever the cost.

**oladub** · March-12-12, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by maxx

Of course, campaign finance reform would mean everyone. And Bill Maher's million looks mighty paltry next to what some Rep. sugar daddies have been putting out. It's like when someone talks about corporate campaign contributions and union contributions in the same breath. They are hardly the same thing.

It gets more complicated when Romney and Obama have some of the same sugar daddies. Goldman Sachs was Obama's second largest contributor four years ago and is Romney's top contributor so far this time around. How can Goldman Sachs go wrong when it's two favorites go head to head? You get what they pay for.

**maxx** · March-12-12, 02:06 PM

http://www.michiganradio.org/post/re...rk-legislation

"...He [Mike Shirkey] told Michigan Radio's Jennifer White, “I don’t believe unions are evil. This is not about getting rid of unions what so ever..."

No, of course not. It's just about making unions irrelevant and powerless.

**Zacha341** · March-12-12, 03:43 PM

Yep. The sorting of the powers elite with the most leverage associated therein is going to become even more blurred and complex as time goes on. We'll continue our 'useful' sifting; somewhat satisfied in that process for yet still some time.

"East, West, just points of the compass, each as stupid as the other."
- Dr. NO [[1962)

Originally Posted by oladub

It gets more complicated when Romney and Obama have some of the same sugar daddies. Goldman Sachs was Obama's second largest contributor four years ago and is Romney's top contributor so far this time around. How can Goldman Sachs go wrong when it's two favorites go head to head? You get what they pay for.

**Bobl** · March-13-12, 12:43 AM

Just watched a two faced politician who was born on third base with millions in the bank, and raised in Michigan, tell a group of southern voters that he is just like them, and likes grits. Funny, he just told us up here he is just like us. I wasn't born on third base, and was given no millions of dollars, but had a father who taught me that honesty is good. Sorry, Mitt. Your loss.

**Zacha341** · March-13-12, 07:18 AM

^^^^ Romney is not going to win. But he will get the nomination over Gingrich, Santorum, and Paul.

**Bobl** · March-13-12, 11:57 PM

Z: I believe Romney will win the nomination. The general election depends on the votes of about 10 to 15% of the independent voters in eight or nine states.
Hard to predict the outcome. Two years ago, those voters elected the deregulation candidates, two years after deregulation ruined the economy. Logic and facts mean little. Money, unleashed by the Citizens United case likely will.

**Zacha341** · March-14-12, 03:51 AM

Yes, I agree and said Romney will get the nomination. And even president Obama's falling a bit in the polls with some former dem supporters, but I still feel he will win... but it may be close.

Originally Posted by Bobl

Z: I believe Romney will win the nomination. The general election depends on the votes of about 10 to 15% of the independent voters in eight or nine states.
Hard to predict the outcome. Two years ago, those voters elected the deregulation candidates, two years after deregulation ruined the economy. Logic and facts mean little. Money, unleashed by the Citizens United case likely will.

**Jimaz** · March-27-12, 07:36 PM

Papantonio: The Republican's Lies About Gas Prices

**maxx** · April-15-12, 02:17 PM

It was a tough fight, but it looks like the biggest Rep. liar won.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...-s-Mitt-Romney

**maxx** · April-15-12, 02:57 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1422258.html
"...'It is no more complicated than the fact that he is untrustworthy," Rosenthal said of Romney, who he praised in 2004. "His positions on any issue are going to change according to his audience. That's his history.'..."

**Jimaz** · May-02-12, 09:46 PM

Attachment 13232
The Truth About Republicans by George Carlin

A dose of truth about the Good Ol' Party

**rb336** · May-03-12, 09:58 AM

After years of being known for saying "let Detroit go bankrupt," a Romney aide now says bailout was Romney's idea:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...t-was-his-idea

**Jimaz** · May-15-12, 08:35 PM

KeepingGOPHonest.com

Now why on Earth would there be a need for a website like that? Hmmmmm?

**Jimaz** · June-24-12, 03:23 PM

Obama spending binge never happened

WASHINGTON [[MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree....

What people forget [[or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.

The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress....

**oladub** · June-24-12, 06:34 PM

Sometimes, Democrats blame Obama's inability to get unemployment back down to even the worst of any part of the Bush administration on Republicans who wouldn't let Obama spend more.You can't have it both ways. Either Obama is a penny pincher as the graph bears out or he was thwarted in spending enough to revive the economy.

Let's imagine though that President Obama is the most frugal president since Coolidge. He still spent $5T more then he took in. In the imaginary wonder world of keynesian economics, spending more than revenue is desirable. For anyone else, it means he overspent. Try spending $5,000 more than you made one year if you are living on credit and see how it works out for you. Maybe there is some new term that works better than "overspent".

Much of President Obama's overspending has roots in Bush. The wars, the Wall Street bailouts, and the tax breaks for the rich were all started by Bush and extended by Obama. Senator Obama voted in support of the first two. There are a number of articles countering this Marketwatch piece. While the 2009 budget was a Bush budget, Obama authorized the second half of the bankers' bailout spending, added the GM bailout, and exceeded the Bush 2009 budget. Yet the Marketwatch piece included these Obama spending decisions as the Bush base.

Total outlays in the four Budget years ending and including FY2009 was $11.882 trillion dollars. Total spending for the following four years will total approximately $14.645 trillion dollars. This, my friends, is an increase of almost 24%.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...#ixzz1ykxs8DiB

**Cincinnati_Kid** · June-24-12, 11:21 PM

"Anybody but Romney"

**maxx** · June-27-12, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

"Anybody but Romney"

Ron Paul? Sarah Palin? Herman Cain? Oh, no, no, no.

Obama yes. Any Republican or Libertarian, no.

**oladub** · June-27-12, 02:23 PM

maxx, The opposite of 'libertarian' is 'authoritarian'. it looks like you've found your comfort zone. Who needs a Congress to legislate when executive orders suffice?