St. Jude Church/School Nostalgia

[Tsomyak]

I'm glad you brought that one up laing. I remember that house we had to parade in front of it for the beginning of Wish Egan baseball and it gave all of us the willies.

I remember the first year I was in the parade the kids all told each other to hold their breath when you walked passed.

[jcole]

The house that stood out in our corner of the parish was the Garner residence on Lansdowne, second house from the NW corner of Casino. My friend Jimmy lived there, and the house had been in and out of his family throughout the 20 century. One the times it was out of the family was during prohibition, and the residents ran a still in the basement. When I was a kid I remember being shown the holes cut into basement ceiling for the ventilation needed for the still. Mr. Garner still lived there in the 90's, I don't know who is in the house currently. The house definitely stands out from the others. I believe it is three stories.

You were friends with James Garner. Wow

[12468_laing]

2 houses in my old neighborhood - on the southwest corner of Casino and Laing, the house had a big chimney on the front and had some kind of ornamental metal cross on it. As a little kid I used to think that was a funeral home or church. Then on the southwest corner of Casino and Whitehill, I always liked the Short's house. On the Casino side, one of the trees had a pipe hanging out about a foot from the trunk, so drip the sap. One guy thought it was syrup, he must have been a westsider.

[kellyroad]

The house that stood out in our corner of the parish was the Garner residence on Lansdowne, second house from the NW corner of Casino. My friend Jimmy lived there, and the house had been in and out of his family throughout the 20 century. One the times it was out of the family was during prohibition, and the residents ran a still in the basement. When I was a kid I remember being shown the holes cut into basement ceiling for the ventilation needed for the still. Mr. Garner still lived there in the 90's, I don't know who is in the house currently. The house definitely stands out from the others. I believe it is three stories.

I'm wondering when the house was built. If there was a still in the basement the house was built in the 20s, probably before.

[Tsomyak]

You were friends with James Garner. Wow

Sure, don't you remember my guest appearances on the Rockford Files?

[Tsomyak]

I'm wondering when the house was built. If there was a still in the basement the house was built in the 20s, probably before.

I'm sure sure as well. I'm thinking maybe even back to the nineteen oughts.

[12468_laing]

tsom, do you remember the griffins and the hays who lived on the south side of casino on landsdowne? Larry Griffin was in my class at Denby '75 as was Kit or Kim Hays. Her brother was a year older - think his name was Larry, both had red hair. Anyway, I think I remember the house you are talking about. I wonder the age as the one I lived in on Laing was built in the late 40's, and the houses on your street didn't look that much older.

[BigSistertoJohnR]

My memories of Fr. Ording are

My memories are when he would come to the classroom to give out report cards. That always scared the crap out of me!!

[zitro]

My memories are when he would come to the classroom to give out report cards. That always scared the crap out of me!!

Hey BigSis nice to see you drop by the neighborhood again.

[Tsomyak]

tsom, do you remember the griffins and the hays who lived on the south side of casino on landsdowne? Larry Griffin was in my class at Denby '75 as was Kit or Kim Hays. Her brother was a year older - think his name was Larry, both had red hair. Anyway, I think I remember the house you are talking about. I wonder the age as the one I lived in on Laing was built in the late 40's, and the houses on your street didn't look that much older.

I remember Kit, although I remember her last name as Hay. We were in an Explorer troup together, along with Rumblefish. Did she live on Lansdowne? Either I wasn't aware of that, or maybe I'm thinking of another person altogether. The age seems about right though. Larry Griffin sounds vaguely familiar, but can't really put a face to the name.

As far as the age of the house on Lansdowne goes, I was told that the Garner house preceded the deveopment of the neighborhood as we know it. It might have been the farmhouse for that area.

[jcole]

Well, troops, it's 5:45 am, and I'm off!! No, not mentally, at least no more than usual; we're on the road again to Colorado. I'll be off line most of today and tomorrow, but will check in if I get internet access. I'll be sporadic for the next 2 weeks.
See ya'll soon.

[7andkelly]

Well, troops, it's 5:45 am, and I'm off!! No, not mentally, at least no more than usual; we're on the road again to Colorado. I'll be off line most of today and tomorrow, but will check in if I get internet access. I'll be sporadic for the next 2 weeks.
See ya'll soon.

Well, I guess since you'll be checking in sporadically, you're thinking you won't be subject to the normal abuse for someone gone two weeks. Fair enough.

Happy trails!

[12468_laing]

tsom, there name was Hay. i'm almost sure they lived on Landsdowne. Her brother's name was Glenn, was on Denby's swim team with me, and was in Scouts himself, but can't remember where his troop was. I do remember she was in Explorers. OK, the nickname Rumblefish is familiar to me - can't remember who that was.

[Tsomyak]

tsom, there name was Hay. i'm almost sure they lived on Landsdowne. Her brother's name was Glenn, was on Denby's swim team with me, and was in Scouts himself, but can't remember where his troop was. I do remember she was in Explorers. OK, the nickname Rumblefish is familiar to me - can't remember who that was.

Rumblefish sometimes posts here. He was a classmate of mine at SJS, lived on Riad near Casino. He was JohnR on the old forum, aka BigSis's little brother.

[12468_laing]

yea, i remember that now. you graduated there in '72, right? I think I knew of him.

[Campfire Girl]

Have fun - JC - we'll miss you -- keep us up-dated!

[Mkap]

God Speed John Glen... ahhh! JC
Have a nice visit and a safe trip.

[12468_laing]

talking about the way it was around Denby, read this link.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...ot-near-school

[zitro]

talking about the way it was around Denby, read this link.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...ot-near-school

Nice, there goes that kids summer

[jcole]

Just checking in. Looks like you're all doing fine without me.
Go ahead, pick on me, 7. See what it gets you next time you're gone for a while. Just remember, I'm never very far from a keyboard.

[7andkelly]

Nice, there goes that kids summer

Here's a clippet from that Detroit News article:

"Because of some minor scuffles earlier in the week at some schools that began summer classes this week, extra officers already had been dispatched to schools, Wasko said. The enhanced security will continue, he said."

"Extra" officers?

A voucher system would empower parents of kids in failing school districts with better options. In as much as the teachers' unions and other aligned groups fought to defeat this measure a few years back, IMO, blood is on their hands.

[Mkap]

Voucher system? I thought bussing was the answer. At least in the seventies it was supposed to be. I guess because that didn't workout so well districts just have to save on gas and let the parents ship them to the better schools.
It's not all the schools fault. It starts in the home and ends in the home. Unfortunately for those parents who participate in the system, they have to put up with the nuckelheads who don't care either way.

[EMG]

My friend from the Salter family that I mentioned above has written to me providing more information on the Salter House discussed earlier in this thread. Also, I was correct about the Salters and Greiners being related. They were also related to the Youngs, for whom I imagine Young street, also in the area, was named. Here's some of what she told me:

"My grandfather was John Salter, son of Casper Salter. These are my father's relatives. This is the house I talked about that had a log cabin built under it. But it was torn down some time ago.

My mother's relatives [[the Greiners) lived at 6 Mile and Gratiot and helped build Grotto church. My great-great grandfather is buried at Grotto, in one of the first plots in the front of the cemetary. He was some kind of official for the area but I can't remember his title - something similar to Mayor of the area. Then my great-grandfather left the area and moved over to the west side of the state near Lake Michigan area [[Weare, Michigan near Hart, Michigan).

Also, the Youngs [[my paternal grandmother was a Young) owned all the property where St. Jude sits to this day. My father grew up on the St. Jude property where my grandparents' farmhouse sat. The house is still in good condition. It was moved a few blocks away. Also, the Morangs were cousins. Their house on Morang and Seven Mile Rd. is where my parents met at a party. The Salter farm was closer to Hayes. When they tore it down it was discovered to have a log cabin built under it originally. Both the Salter and Young farms were on the north side of Seven Mile. My sister attended St. Jude School from grades 1 through 8."

[7andkelly]

My friend from the Salter family that I mentioned above has written to me providing more information on the Salter House discussed earlier in this thread. Also, I was correct about the Salters and Greiners being related. They were also related to the Youngs, for whom I imagine Young street, also in the area, was named. Here's some of what she told me:

"My grandfather was John Salter, son of Casper Salter. These are my father's relatives. This is the house I talked about that had a log cabin built under it. But it was torn down some time ago.

My mother's relatives [[the Greiners) lived at 6 Mile and Gratiot and helped build Grotto church. My great-great grandfather is buried at Grotto, in one of the first plots in the front of the cemetary. He was some kind of official for the area but I can't remember his title - something similar to Mayor of the area. Then my great-grandfather left the area and moved over to the west side of the state near Lake Michigan area [[Weare, Michigan near Hart, Michigan).

Also, the Youngs [[my paternal grandmother was a Young) owned all the property where St. Jude sits to this day. My father grew up on the St. Jude property where my grandparents' farmhouse sat. The house is still in good condition. It was moved a few blocks away. Also, the Morangs were cousins. Their house on Morang and Seven Mile Rd. is where my parents met at a party. The Salter farm was closer to Hayes. When they tore it down it was discovered to have a log cabin built under it originally. Both the Salter and Young farms were on the north side of Hayes. My sister attended St. Jude School from grades 1 through 8."

Good stuff, EMG. Keep digging. You're on a roll.

[zitro]

I'll second that. Great work EMG we appreciated the historical significance