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    Quote Originally Posted by HATCHMO92 View Post
    Im surprised with how little info there is on his case , with how big of a story he was , you'd think there would be alot more on the net . I could only find the same 3 photo's of him. Does any one know were i can find footage of his trial , the one that was over ran by teenage dealers .

    I have tried to find articles on him before, as well. I have found a couple of fake myspace pages on him, and that's about it.

    I am four months older than he is, too. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dove-7 View Post
    Your "just sayin" sounds more like a rant than a real issue. But since you asked, I'll explain why he was named something that he accepted.

    White Boy Rick was a young white kid that was in the drug game in Detroit during the 80's. If I do recall both him and his father were both busted in a big drug bust that included several blacks. He was called White Boy Rick because as most of us know, Detroit is a black majority city and at that time it was unheard of white kids selling and dealing dope in the inner city that was for the majority, known or labeled as a black thing. To a degree that's understandable seeing that most of the drug dealers in the city were/are black. Well, the ones that get caught.

    Dealers getting nick names like this is nothing new. He's not the only guy with a name that seem racist or offensive to you. They do the same thing here on the west coast. Hispanics that are in the black gangs have a stereotype name and the same applies to blacks that are in the Hispanic games. Anyways, crying over what the guy's nick name is melodramatic. Cry over all of the drugs that he was selling to addicts like most dealers do.

    Btw, he was one of the biggest to get caught in the game.
    Rick's dad was never busted for drugs. He was convicted for "possesing" gun silencers. They went after his dad to keep his mouth shut. They had alot of info on corrupt cops and politicians that those in power did not want to be outed.
    Rick wasn't one of the biggest. He was just a kid who got involved in the drug trade because of the Feds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroitbob66 View Post
    You can look him up on Offender Tracking Information System [[OTIS) and see his current picture mugshot in prison. Been locked up for over twenty years and I think he deserves parole. You have rapists and killers that get parole, but Rick Wershe was just a drug dealer who, if released, wouldn't sell drugs ever again simply because of the fact that everyone would be watching his every move! He deserves another chance at life....FREE WHITE BOY RICK
    Amen brother!

    Rick was convicted at a time when everything bad in Detroit was said to be caused by drugs and drug dealers. Rick should be released asap! He's a good guy who made some mistakes. He was just a kid when he was convicted and has spent the last 23 years in prison. So sad..
    Rick NEVER had millions so there's no way he could have buried any large amount of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8RBOB View Post
    It's funny reading these responses that White Boy Rick should be pardoned. That he did his time yet are we forgetting that he was part of a culture that took Detroit on a path to hell. That this is the same Richard Wershe Jr. that was partnered up with Richard Carter aka Maserati Rick who was one of the leaders of Best Friends, a drug gang that did murder for hire. If The Wire showed us one thing is that you can't control blocks without dropping bodies. [[i.e. Mario and the vacants) White Boy Rick was pushing major dope back in the 80's and his hands were not clean. He is right where he belongs. Next thing you know all of the Chambers brothers will be asking to be let out.
    Detroit was going downhill fast well before coke/crack became a problem in the city. We could also blame the ills of Detroit on booze and lock up the CEO's of the beer/liquor companies, eh? I'm not saying drugs are good but I won't subscribe to the notion that drugs brought Detroit to it's knees. The lose of jobs connected to the auto industry could also be blamed for many problems in Detroit.
    Rick was NOT involved in murders. He was a kid who sold drugs as a teen.
    You'd also be very surprised at who HAS been released. Guys much larger than Rick who were connected to beheadings and other murders.
    I know Rick and find it sad that people out there say and print so many untruths about him. I guess it makes to a more interesting story but.. it's not the truth.

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    The funniest thing I noticed back in the days [[looking innocently around, lalalalala...) was that black guys would brag that they always got the best stuff from white boys, yet white guys would brag that the stuff they got was the best out there & they knew it because they got it from a black guy.

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    Even if drugs were legalized is anyone really so naive as to think these guys would have been honest, upstanding citizens? If you could legally buy crack at the local party store these scumbags would have been stealing cars, robbing old ladies and holding up party stores to make a quick buck. They took the low road in life, and more often than not it's a dead end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    Even if drugs were legalized is anyone really so naive as to think these guys would have been honest, upstanding citizens? If you could legally buy crack at the local party store these scumbags would have been stealing cars, robbing old ladies and holding up party stores to make a quick buck. They took the low road in life, and more often than not it's a dead end.

    Thats an unfair statement. Most drug dealers find their trade simply by knowing someone else in the trade who's making a lot of money and in turn want that lifestyle, rims and all. Dealers are just buying/selling another product like any businessperson. Im IMHO its should be an honest line of work. Thieves on the other hand tend to be pre programmed to take what they want. Can you honestly say Johnny5 that any dealer youve known would most likely just pick up a gun and start robbing ppl if they couldnt deal drugs anymore? Ive known a lot of dealers over the years but most of them just weren't thieves like that, they just wanted to buy for a dollar and sell for two [[as Prop. Joe would say)

    On the other hand, dealers who go to prison quickly learn how to be a criminal or a better criminal. . Prison is just a college for criminals. They will often come out of the system knowledgeable in all different kinds of crime and will turn to it when they get out and find getting a decent job near impossible. You say they chose the low road in life but when your born on the low road you will often go with what you know. I couldn't imagine how difficult it would be to climb out of the hood.

    White Boy Rick should never have gone to prison in the first place. Is there any less drugs on the street now that we have over a half million dealers and users in prison today? We havent made a dent in drugs available. The problem should have been tackled at the root, those that consume the drugs, and should be treated as a health issue like the disease addiction is, not a criminal issue as supply and demand will always rule.

    As I understand WBR did learn a new trade while in prison, how to run a car theft ring from behind bars. From prison he made the leap from non violent so called criminal to real criminal, and now we want to let him out. .

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    Well, let me twist the issue away from WBR for a bit. How do we attack the drug problem. I see it as both an economic issue and a public policy issue. The economist in me says to legalize it, take the profit out of it, because as we all know if you arrest one drug dealer you have 10 more willing to take his place because of the profit in it. Plus the coked out folks won't break into your house [[or not as many houses) because they can afford the product. But the public policy person in me wonders how you can have all these coked out people walking the streets trying to do day-to-day activities like driving a bus, working in a manufacturing plant etc, etc now that drugs are legalized

    The strain you would put on the re-hab centers could just put a greater dent in the budget than what we already have.

    I really don't have an answer, I just know that the way we are doing it now doesn't work.

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    WBR should be out of prison?Not in our lifetime.See how nice the eastside of Detroit is.Why its like a parkland with whole areas going back to nature.WBR was like a Muir or TR,a real nature lover.A hit squad that would have been made public in 50 years would have served Detroit well in 1980s.I know,we have laws and are a nation of laws,but what these dopers did to Detroit was beyond criminal.Just saying......

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstandten View Post
    How do we attack the drug problem. I see it as both an economic issue and a public policy issue. The economist in me says to legalize it, take the profit out of it, because as we all know if you arrest one drug dealer you have 10 more willing to take his place because of the profit in it. Plus the coked out folks won't break into your house [[or not as many houses) because they can afford the product. But the public policy person in me wonders how you can have all these coked out people walking the streets trying to do day-to-day activities like driving a bus, working in a manufacturing plant etc, etc now that drugs are legalized

    The strain you would put on the re-hab centers could just put a greater dent in the budget than what we already have.

    I really don't have an answer, I just know that the way we are doing it now doesn't work.
    I think you have it right on firstandten

    But why would all of a sudden regular ppl start doing hard drugs. Would you for instance pick up a rig and start shooting heroin just because you could do so legally, do you think your friends would. There has been studies on that type of scenario and they found that there wouldn't be a significant rise in hard drug use. I could imagine a system where if you were a drug addict you would have to be registered and licensed. You would need that license to purchase your drugs and therefore barred from being hired to do a job which involved heavy machinery, driving a bus, etc. They already have a sort of license to carry syringes in the city, and you have to be registered with the health dept to get your card. If cops give a registered user a hassle for carrying syringes he shows the card and problem solved..

    All the money saved on housing prisoners by itself could easily pay for the addicts to go to rehab. Huge amounts of money would be saved. Think of all the public defenders and other court costs. No doubt there would be problems but like you said, the way were doing it now doesn't work.

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    I can't believe how naive some of the people on this forum are. With the idea "It was only drugs, he's rehabilitated, lets parole him". Hey, I have some prime property along Zug Island I'd love to sell you!

    Do you really think the leader of a major drug cartel in Detroit [[and don't fool yourself into thinking it was just a little coke, they were moving huge amounts of drugs) never wacked somebody to advance his position in the dealing game? And, to think he was stupid enough to have never stashed any money away. The word at the time from people involved in the case was he stashed somewhere between 2.5 and 3.5 million in overseas accounts that the feds couldn't touch.

    Also, do you really think he could ever come back and live in Detroit again after testifying against others. He'd get blown away within two weeks of getting out.

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    I was sworn to secrecy...If I tell ya Imma have to kill ya.....

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    Wilfred, so the drug war is working for ya?

    More people die every year over drugs than by drugs so that argument doesn't hold much weight. For cripes sake look at what is happening in Mexico because of prohibition. Moms dont worry about their kids getting hooked on crack they worry about their kids getting in the life.

    Ive never heard of WBR being involved with hits. Ive heard of plenty of hits surrounding Massaratti[[sp) Rick, YBI, I believe its the Chambers Bros, and others. I would think that someone who believes in the current draconian drug sentencing guidelines they would also agree with capitol punishment so why worry and moan about one dealer killing another. That is the business they chose right?

    Why would it matter if its one kilo or a hundred? Personally I doubt the kid was smart enough to make that many millions and/or use an offshore account.

    Like I said earlier, many dealers get involved because its a crime of opportunity. That person happens to know someone with large amounts of drugs and its easy money and from there they learn how to be a better criminal. Prohibition does not work, we've proved that twice now. If anyone has a better idea Id love to hear it. I dont want to see anyone get addicted to drugs but they are a fact of life and they're not going away. Pretending you can eradicate drugs is just hiding your head in the sand from the real issue, which is addiction.

    Are you saying the drug war is working wilfrid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickBeall View Post
    Us Rick's have to hang together, so, sorry, nothing happening here, move on. ;-)
    Got that straight, bro.

    I don't know nuthin' 'bout no buried treasure. Especially one that's twenty paces west of the Belle Isle Casino north entrance, seven paces east of the trash barrel, twenty-five paces north to the elm tree lined up with the no standing sign.
    Nothing but old, dead leaves, worms and a few Stroh pop-tops buried underneath the largest east-facing limb. Plenty more to keep you busy in this city, so go on, scram!

    Besides, there's no "booty" to be plundered here since the island is shut down at dusk anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtowncitylover View Post
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    Didn't the supreme court just rule that minors cannot be sentenced to life in prison without parole? How will this effect WBR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroitgayhistoryguy View Post
    Didn't the supreme court just rule that minors cannot be sentenced to life in prison without parole? How will this effect WBR?
    His life sentence got dropped and he is eligible for parole, which he keeps getting denied.

    One reason this might be is the Feds ILLEGALLY used him as a confidential informant at the age of 14 and some don't want him out.[[Not to mention they allowed him to deal dope for years.) The irony is the people Rick helped put behind bars for major trafficking all got lighter sentences than he did.

    Either way the "war on drugs" is a joke. The draconian drugs laws these idiots support allow the violent drug cartels to prosper.

    Our Government isn't so moral when they endanger the life of a 14-year-old minor.

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    i'm for parolling all of the non-violent drug criminals. white , black, hispanic, whatever. i'm sure a lot of other people are like-minded.

    i have a question for the drug warriors. whats it like to have your taxes pay to keep these non-violent offenders in prison? while the police, fire, schools, post office, buses, roads and other services get closed and cut from the budget?

    i say parole the non violent drug criminals! let the murderers and rapists stay in jail.

    freeway ricky ross is out. he got life, commuted to 20 years and out in 2009. he was a real 'kingpin' , with over 1000 employees. did whiteboy rick have that?

    In 1996, Ross was sentenced to life imprisonment after being convicted of trying to purchase more than 100 kilograms of cocaine from a federal agent.

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    "The injustice of the imprisonment of Richard Wershe, Jr.—White Boy Rick—demands action by people who care about justice. This post talks about the politics of Rick Wershe’s imprisonment, the politicians who can do something about it and ways you can contact them.
    Rick Wershe needs help. More specifically, he needs political help."
    Read more: http://www.thedimedroppers.com/2015/...ollars-on.html

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    Maybe he should ask Obama. He just commuted this guys...

    Patrick Roberts, 65, is currently incarcerated in a federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind., according to corrections records, and has lost several previous attempts to have his sentence reduced.
    Federal court documents say he pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute heroin, cocaine and marijuana and was sentenced to life imprisonment, under rules which were in place at the time, because of his four prior drug convictions.

    Obama today commuted the sentences of 46 federal prisoners convicted on drug charges, ordering their terms to end Nov. 10 of this year. Roberts' was the only one from Michigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketchange View Post
    Maybe he should ask Obama. He just commuted this guys...

    Patrick Roberts, 65, is currently incarcerated in a federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind., according to corrections records, and has lost several previous attempts to have his sentence reduced.
    Federal court documents say he pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute heroin, cocaine and marijuana and was sentenced to life imprisonment, under rules which were in place at the time, because of his four prior drug convictions.

    Obama today commuted the sentences of 46 federal prisoners convicted on drug charges, ordering their terms to end Nov. 10 of this year. Roberts' was the only one from Michigan.
    When I saw Obama on TV today commuting those drug offenders' sentences, the first thought that popped into my head was Whiteboy Rick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveyM View Post
    "The injustice of the imprisonment of Richard Wershe, Jr.—White Boy Rick—demands action by people ...
    The more you guys post, the more I hope he stays there forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meddle View Post
    The more you guys post, the more I hope he stays there forever.
    Maybe you would be more sympathetic of people like Rick if you asked yourself a simple question;

    "How do these Drugs get into the country?"


    Now here's the tough part, do a little research, a few key words for a Google search, Mena, Arkansas, CIA drug smuggling, Barry Seal C127, Iran Contra...

    I believe this "pipeline" of illegal drugs is facilitated by the federal government. It goes way beyond just funding CIA operations. Who was governor in Arkansas when Mena was exposed? Oh that's right, Bill Clinton! Reagan at bat, Bush on deck, and Clinton in the hole[[no pun intended).

    Broaden your horizons Meddle and maybe "White Boy Rick" wouldn't be the subject of your frustrations. Or keep believing what you hear in the news as "wool meets eyes"...


    Here's a good link below on what happened in Mena, but there are thousands of pieces written and many documentaries about the situation for viewing online. A movie about all this in the works that will be distributed by Universal Pictures.. Tom Cruise playing Barry Seal.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO...s_of_mena.html


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