What should we give Texas as a going away gift? Or don't let the door hit you...

[oldredfordette]

Let them go! What a bunch of whining children, just because they lost an election.

[wash_man]

Give them Sarah Palin. Let HER be their President!

[oldredfordette]

People we can give to Texas to keep:

Ted Nugent
Sarah Palin
Glen Beck
Bill O'Reilly
Mann Coulter
L. Brooks Patterson.

[firstandten]

People we can give to Texas to keep:

Ted Nugent
Sarah Palin
Glen Beck
Bill O'Reilly
Mann Coulter
L. Brooks Patterson.

ORD , I can't believe you forgot the main man . Mr. Texas Ranger himself Chuck Norris , you know he wants to be president of Texas !. If he would institute some socialist policies like free Karate lessons for all residents I might be able to support him.

[oldredfordette]

I guess I just don't think of Chuck Norris, except when he's selling that Nordic Track thingy. You're right, off to the Glorious Republic of Texass for you, Mr. Norris!

[Vic_doucette]

And we already gave them Kwame.

[jcole]

And we already gave them Kwame.

They can't give him back, can they?

[oldredfordette]

Eeek. Someone lock the door.

[oldredfordette]

That was completely daffy. Do you want to try again, and this time make it intelligible?

[Flanders]

TX is one of the few, if not the only red federal tax donor states, so they should obviously continue to fund the many southern red tax recipient states until or if they join, as well as take control over the WOT since many RWers who live there that I have read online, wish to wipe Islam from the face of the earth. They also love their guns, so the new nation of TX could also help Mexico in the fight against the drug lords there that threaten to overrun TX' southern border.

[Bigb23]

We'll give away Texas, if we take Manitoba. Even trade.

[oldredfordette]

Whirrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Brrrrrrrrrip!

[Ray1936]

I hope we could keep the panhandle. Nice folks up there around Amarillo and all. Different from the rest of the state.

[oldredfordette]

Austin is also nice, but we could just relocate some of those folks to somewhere nice and compatible like Madison.

They take my above list. We keep Willie Nelson, Lyle Lovett, Kinky Friedman...Oh hell, musicians get free passports to the Free United States.

[firstandten]

Many right wingers want to wipe Islam off the face of the earth?

You put a ? there but I really think you meant !

Wow, How about left wingers wanting to wipe Christianity and Judaism of the face of the earth?

I think I missed that memo I'll have to go and round up my posse so we can buy one of those right wing miltia compounds that the play soldiers can't afford anymore because there all out of jobs because of Bush's policies.

How about left wingers continually practicing racism openly to keep people in this nation at odds.

Just for the hell of it give me one example

How about left wingers brainwashing our youth with bold faced lies through their nazi backed media conglomerates. [[i.e.Sarah Palin or anything republican)

Now, that Olbermann over at MSNBC you better watch him he looks like one of those types

I agree with you about Palin, there's no way the commies would finance her education like they did Obama's She did it the old fashion way. She went to enough schools until she found one that would let her graduate.

Please your whole comment stinks of trying to spell Texans out as the old southern racists that you democrats were/still are.
You should own up to your own titles instead of trying to project them.

Way to twist truths. But I guess its just the good ol sounthern boy liberal way eh?

I guess we just have to live with being a lying liberal !!

[Bigb23]

There are some new people on board who seem to throw the terms, Jew, Nazi, and Liberal around with great abandon. Are you familiar with the Kristal nachct ? It's a slippery slope folks.

[ccbatson]

The message is a very good one...resist leaping socialism.

I don't think they truly intend to declare independence as a practical impossibility, but the subject is a good vehicle for the message.

[d.mcc]

The message is a very good one...resist leaping socialism.

Leaping socialism is my favorite type! Better than waltzing or trotting socialism any day!

[d.mcc]

Are you familiar with the Kristal nachct ? It's a slippery slope folks.

That stuff is like... 200$ a bottle!

You shouldn't throw it around period!

[firstandten]

There are some new people on board who seem to throw the terms, Jew, Nazi, and Liberal around with great abandon. Are you familiar with the Kristal nachct ? It's a slippery slope folks.

On a serious note when you start throwing those terms around its easier to marginalize people and once you start to marginalizing people then the slippery slope can come to this:

THE TORTURE MEMO'S

According the May, 30, 2005 "Torture Memo," penned by Judge Jay Bybee [[Bush got him onto the 9th Circ. Appellate Court), we held and tortured 94 detainees, using waterboarding, stressed positioning, subjecting them to extreme temperatures while naked, even stuffing them into boxes.
Most telling, in Page 7 of this formerly secret document, the author identified "Gul" who had been subjected to sleep deprivation, stress positions, slaps, and other techniques. Interestingly, the CIA has denied holding Gul, has denied torturing Gul, and denies knowing where Gul currently is. Makes one wonder how honest the CIA has been with us.
On Page 8, the author admits that "The CIA used the waterboard extensively in the interrogations of KSM and Zubaydah. . . " So much for a previous claim that it was not used regularly, or even at all.
Early on in this hideous document, Bybee promises that "enhanced" torture would only be used on high level targets. Yet, on Page 9, Bybee suggests using it on low level, detainees in order to validate and assess other information's validity.
On page 10, Bybee admits that Jose Padilla's alleged nuke plot [[which the DOJ and Military later dropped) was totally based on torture-based interrogations . Unfortuantely, Padilla had no nuke plot, was not in any position to create a nuke plot, and has been rendered so brain damaged by his own torture [[by the US), that his own attorneys and the prosecutors agree that he is no longer sane.
At least we know why the DOJ dropped most of the counts against Padilla.
Page 15 discusses immersion in water at 41 Deg. Fahrenheit. It describes putting people in a coffin-like box for hours at a time. Still the best is yet to come:
"We conclude, first, that the CIA interrogation program does not implicate the US obligations under Article 16 of the CAT because Article 16 has limited geographic scope. . . As we explain below, based on CIA assurances, we understand that the interrogations conducted by the CIA did not take place in any 'territory under United States jurisdiction. . . . "
Translation: Because we avoided US soil, [[except for torturing Padilla until he went mad) we can do as we please and torture anyone we want. I am sure that Raul Castro wants Gitmo back. Last I checked, we seem to exert control over that territory.
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The Dishonorable Jay Bybee also reviewed each torture technique, and gave his blessing to each method of damaging the mind and body of people we held against their will. [[By the way, the recent disclosure that 2/3s of those held at Gitmo were innocent of any wrong-doing, terror, or crimes should be considered while you learn about the torture that Bybee approved)
Stress positions: Bybee argues that these are all great and work wonderfully, even though they may cause "physical discomfort."
Sleep deprivation: Even though sleep deprivation causes mental illness, Bybee excuses that because "reactions abate after the individual is permitted to sleep." Translation, even after you drive your victim crazy, his worst symptoms improve with sleep.
Cramped boxes with insects: Bybee gladly seized on the fact that Zubaydah has a phobia about insects. How nice to put him in a coffin, add insects, and close him up.
Waterboaring: Bybee clinically describes how safe and sound this program is, approving its use.

There are other techniques and methods of breaking the minds and the psyches of those we detained, including the hundreds of innocents that were "processed" under Bybee's program of deliberate torture ".

[d.mcc]

First...

Not allowing these techniques only makes the United States more vulnerable...

These captives aren't protected by our rights, they are criminals, and should be treated as such...

[Flanders]

Solution to Islam
"Islam intends to cover the whole earth, by force, or reproduction. There is no way to negotiate with those that would enslave or kill everyone that disagrees with them. What, do we let them kill half of us?"

"After 9\11, we should have nuked Mecca, Medina and every Islamic population center until the rubble bounced. Then we should have captured every oil well, killed every male Islamic, and every married woman. The unmarried females would have been brought home as war brides for our victorious warriors."

"Here at home, declare Islam to be a political system, not a religion. As the stated goal of Islam is the imposition of Sharia law, every Islamic would be guilty of treason, and would be put to death. Seal all borders and ports, never again let a person or cargo in or out without inspection."

"Perhaps Russia, as their leaders are not as weak as ours, will be willing to do what is needed to counter the threat"

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I presume that those "war brides" are at least verifiably 18??

From a RW website, maybe I will add a few of these types of posts each day as I come across them while browsing.

Teh internet is a wonderful means of communication and collaboration, but unfortunately it also permits teh real whackjobs to do so as well.