Dave Bing trying to steal L. Brooks' Precious Jewels

[Mackinaw]

MAcc: offical court jester of DYes.

[dtowncitylover]

The shootings on Jefferson after each game would add to the excitement.

What does this even mean?!?! Please explain this one. If you're gonna troll at least be logical!

[noise]

The Pistons should play a single game in Joe Louis Arena this spring. Test the waters a bit. Watch every ticket sell and every seat be filled for a non-playoff team. Then they'll understand.

By this logic, they should hold every college hockey game in a football stadium.

[Mackinaw]

You're losing me, noise. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, nor are the events conducted for comparable purposes. Michigan-MSU in Chicago filled about 5% of Soldier Field. I am saying that opposite would occur.

My proposition will never be tested because if the Pistons played in Detroit for a day the public outcry for a move there would be defeaning, and casual, once-a-year ticket buyers would stop going to the Palace and wait for the next game in Detroit.

[Bham1982]

My proposition will never be tested because if the Pistons played in Detroit for a day the public outcry for a move there would be defeaning, and casual, once-a-year ticket buyers would stop going to the Palace and wait for the next game in Detroit.

And the armchair economists of DYes strike again.

I guess this is why the Palace has led the NBA in attendance most years, and is often the most profitable arena in the U.S., and why they left downtown in the first place, back when Detroit was much healthier, busier and more vibrant.

There's a reason Tom Gores owns the Pistons and you don't. He has money, and knows how to keep it. People don't attend hockey games based on whether they think the surrounding area is desirable and, in any case, we don't exactly have an issue of rampant downtown desirability in the first place.

[noise]

You're losing me, noise. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, nor are the events conducted for comparable purposes. Michigan-MSU in Chicago filled about 5% of Soldier Field. I am saying that opposite would occur.

My proposition will never be tested because if the Pistons played in Detroit for a day the public outcry for a move there would be defeaning, and casual, once-a-year ticket buyers would stop going to the Palace and wait for the next game in Detroit.

It was a long time ago, but I attended the first hockey game in Spartan Stadium. I remember it being packed, especially more than the typical hockey game at MSU, but again, it's been a while.

My point was simply that a one-off special event isn't exactly a strong indicator of future attendance.

[Mackinaw]

A very fair point.

[warsaw7]

And the armchair economists of DYes strike again.

I guess this is why the Palace has led the NBA in attendance most years, and is often the most profitable arena in the U.S., and why they left downtown in the first place, back when Detroit was much healthier, busier and more vibrant.

There's a reason Tom Gores owns the Pistons and you don't. He has money, and knows how to keep it. People don't attend hockey games based on whether they think the surrounding area is desirable and, in any case, we don't exactly have an issue of rampant downtown desirability in the first place.

Key word my friend "has." Not disagreeing with you on this one, but once again when they were in the midst of their playoff runs, Detroit was not a destination. I think as more people start to flock downtown, as they are currently doing, it would make more sense to move back down here. Maybe 5 years out? It will help to have the Olympia project and M1 rail completed before this becomes a reality.

[Dbest]

from a story a few years ago:

Later in the breakfast panel, Gilbert was asked if he’s trying to persuade Tom Gores to move the Detroit Pistons downtown from the team’s current home in Auburn Hills.

“I always try to put the bug in his ear,” said Gilbert, who has long espoused the belief that sports arenas belong in core cities rather than faraway suburbs. Both the Pistons and Cavs had losing records this year, but Gilbert said the Cavs drew much better crowds because there’s more to do in downtown Cleveland — with a casino and restaurants nearby — than in a suburb like Auburn Hills.

Gilbert is in the fraternity, his opinion carries more weight than most..

[Khorasaurus]

I guess this is why the Palace has led the NBA in attendance most years,

That was true several years ago. Right now, they are 28th in tickets sold and dead last in percentage of capacity. Only 10 out of the 64 luxury suites are leased. And they aren't THAT bad on the court [[still have a decent shot at the playoffs).

[Hypestyles]

not too much time left until the main season ends. statistically, are the pistons totally out?

[Dbest]

not too much time left until the main season ends. statistically, are the pistons totally out?

No, they are a few games out of the 8th and final playoff seed in the Eastern Conference. The Pistons are rudderless until the Monroe situation is resolved, he could be traded in the next few days if the right offer presents itself. If he isnt dealt before the deadline and opts to bolt in the offseason then the Pistons are left with nothing but cap flexibility.

Does this sound familar? Max Scherzer bounced from the Tigers and Suh is taking has taken his time thus far. This narrative is getting old across the board. But give it to these guys for betting on themselves in contract years and raising their stock....

[warsaw7]

Never thought about this before, [[as I am watching MSG host another game) but in its 26 years why has the Palace never hosted an All-Star game? It is simple, there is NOTHING to do around the Palace and the NBA has expressed that they would not consider hosting a game here due to its proximity to Detroit. Another loss of revenue here.

[AarunFast]

^Yep. The All-Star game has become more than a basketball game; it's a cultural event. It's a mix of sports, brands, music, art and high fashion, all of which currently do not exist and will never exist in Auburn Hills. Where would the TNT crew set up from, the parking lot of Oakland University? Or maybe they can broadcast from Hoops Bar and Grill?

[Lombaowski]

No, they are a few games out of the 8th and final playoff seed in the Eastern Conference. The Pistons are rudderless until the Monroe situation is resolved, he could be traded in the next few days if the right offer presents itself. If he isnt dealt before the deadline and opts to bolt in the offseason then the Pistons are left with nothing but cap flexibility.

Does this sound familar? Max Scherzer bounced from the Tigers and Suh is taking has taken his time thus far. This narrative is getting old across the board. But give it to these guys for betting on themselves in contract years and raising their stock....

Comparing other sports as a way to make your point doesn't work here. The Tigers are in the 10th largest market and have the 5th highest payroll, they simply could not afford Scherzer. As far as Suh, the Lions don't want to pony up to make him the highest paid player in the NFL. The Lions have always been a terrible organization, but even I can't fault them on this one.

Monroe is going to test the market and he's going to be handsomely paid. The Pistons are in a good position to give him more than what others would, so it is not a foregone conclusion he is leaving.

[Dbest]

Comparing other sports as a way to make your point doesn't work here. The Tigers are in the 10th largest market and have the 5th highest payroll, they simply could not afford Scherzer. As far as Suh, the Lions don't want to pony up to make him the highest paid player in the NFL. The Lions have always been a terrible organization, but even I can't fault them on this one.

Monroe is going to test the market and he's going to be handsomely paid. The Pistons are in a good position to give him more than what others would, so it is not a foregone conclusion he is leaving.

the Tigers offered Max a 144 million dollar contract last offseason, Greg Monroe was offered a contract this past offseason, The Lions wanted to sign Suh before the start of camp last year but he conveniently ditched his agent around the same time...

So whats your point? Like I said, these guys held out and want paid. They all could have had very nice contracts and been able to continue to play here. The Tigers will have to sign Price after this season so your theory about their market size or whatever holds no weight.If they were broke they would have hung onto Smyly...

[Mackinaw]

Warsaw, great point. The ASG won't rotate through one of the most iconic cities and one of the most legendary franchises...because they have a terribly located venue.