Arts, Beats & Eats is moving to Royal Oak

[dtowncitylover]

YAY!! GUNS!!! For Royal Oak residents, let me apologize for the stupid decision that the City Commission has taken.

[Searay215]

YAY!! GUNS!!! For Royal Oak residents, let me apologize for the stupid decision that the City Commission has taken.

Personally I think this is a lot about nothing....I would imagine that you may not even see anyone carrying. What about all the youths that are carrying illegal under their shirts? I am guessing nothing will happen. Every day you encounter someone who is carrying, and are not aware of it.
Go have some fun, and ignore the all the "chicken littles" who claim that it will be like the Ok Coral.

[jackie5275]

Personally I think this is a lot about nothing....I would imagine that you may not even see anyone carrying. What about all the youths that are carrying illegal under their shirts? I am guessing nothing will happen. Every day you encounter someone who is carrying, and are not aware of it.
Go have some fun, and ignore the all the "chicken littles" who claim that it will be like the Ok Coral.

I wonder what will be said if something does happen.

[DC48080]

Personally I think this is a lot about nothing....I would imagine that you may not even see anyone carrying. What about all the youths that are carrying illegal under their shirts? I am guessing nothing will happen. Every day you encounter someone who is carrying, and are not aware of it.
Go have some fun, and ignore the all the "chicken littles" who claim that it will be like the Ok Coral.

You are absolutely correct. I am much more concerned about the thug who is carrying a firearm illegally under his shirt than I am about a trained law-abiding citizen who is carrying.

Just who do these people think is the bigger threat here? People say that there shouldn't be guns at a "family event". That may be true, but the criminals don't follow the same logic with their illegal weapons.

Remember, they don't just hand out CCW permits for the asking. You have to take classes and learn when you can and cannot use a weapon in order to get a permit.

[JJD]

Remember, they don't just hand out CCW permits for the asking. You have to take classes and learn when you can and cannot use a weapon in order to get a permit.

I know alot of people who have taken the CCW class and gotten permits. Anyone ever meet someone who failed that class? To assume that getting the permit makes you a responsible, intelligent, and emotionally as well as mentally stable person is a joke.

Crazy people are dangerous. Crazy people with guns are very dangerous.

I will not be attending AB&E because of the debate, not its end result. I fear that an irrational person from whichever side lost [[in this case the gun control side) will try to incite gun violence to prove their point. I would feel the same if the other side won the argument.

[Johnlodge]

I know alot of people who have taken the CCW class and gotten permits. Anyone ever meet someone who failed that class? To assume that getting the permit makes you a responsible, intelligent, and emotionally as well as mentally stable person is a joke.

I love that "but you have to take a class!" argument.

You couldn't learn to make a Web site in an 8 hour class, but somehow it transforms you into a responsible and competent person in control of their emotions and to be trusted with a firearm.

[guito13]

I love that "but you have to take a class!" argument.

You couldn't learn to make a Web site in an 8 hour class, but somehow it transforms you into a responsible and competent person in control of their emotions and to be trusted with a firearm.

There is also the background check component. Once you take your "class" you have to go to the county, turn in passport quality photos of yourself, get yourself fingerprinted, then wait 3-4 months or so while they do a background check on you. Then you get your CPL.

I would rather be in a situation where there were armed good people than where there are not.

[Johnlodge]

There is also the background check component. Once you take your "class" you have to go to the county, turn in passport quality photos of yourself, get yourself fingerprinted, then wait 3-4 months or so while they do a background check on you. Then you get your CPL.

I would rather be in a situation where there were armed good people than where there are not.

Right – let me put an addendum to my statement. If you are a responsible, law-abiding gun owner, you were probably a responsible, law-abiding citizen beforehand. I am just laughing at the people who reference the "training" as though they had to go through the police academy to get a CCW.

[jt1]

You are absolutely correct. I am much more concerned about the thug who is carrying a firearm illegally under his shirt than I am about a trained law-abiding citizen who is carrying.

Just who do these people think is the bigger threat here? People say that there shouldn't be guns at a "family event". That may be true, but the criminals don't follow the same logic with their illegal weapons.

Remember, they don't just hand out CCW permits for the asking. You have to take classes and learn when you can and cannot use a weapon in order to get a permit.

So why is it so important to some that they be allowed to carry weapons that are not concealed. I'm not a fan of guns but if people want to carry a CCW that is fine. Why the need to insist on being able to have your gun exposed for all to see.

Personally, I hope any idiot that feels the need to carry an exposed weapon is stopped by the cops and required to show their permits.

Gun zealots are going overboard on the need to let everyone know that they are cowards with little penises as opposed to just keeping their legal weapon concealed.