Edmund Fitzgerald anniversary

[Detroitnerd]

It was 34 years ago today.

[jcole]

The legend lives on...

[Detroitej72]

From the Chippewa on down...

[Detroitnerd]

of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

[jcole]

Superior it's said never gives up her dead

[jbd441]

Superior it's said never gives up her dead

Can you tell us oh wise one, the reason Superior never gives up her dead? And why does legend refer to Lake Superior as female?

[jcole]

Can you tell us oh wise one, the reason Superior never gives up her dead? And why does legend refer to Lake Superior as female?

As far as I know, it has to do with the water temperature. And why the 'oh wise one' crap? I'm quoting a song lyric. Go ask Gordon Lightfoot.

[jbd441]

As far as I know, it has to do with the water temperature. And why the 'oh wise one' crap? I'm quoting a song lyric. Go ask Gordon Lightfoot.

My thanks to jcole, blue, and retroit for answering my questions. I never would have guessed about Lake Superior's water temp having to do with bodies never floating. The gender issue of Lake Superior makes sense in reference to Mother Nature. Oh and jcole, "oh wise one" to me was meant as a term of respect. My apology if I offended you.

[jcole]

My thanks to jcole, blue, and retroit for answering my questions. I never would have guessed about Lake Superior's water temp having to do with bodies never floating. The gender issue of Lake Superior makes sense in reference to Mother Nature. Oh and jcole, "oh wise one" to me was meant as a term of respect. My apology if I offended you.

That's okay. I'm so used to smart asses around here that I jumped to a conclusion. Sorry that I snapped

[jtf1972]

As far as I know, it has to do with the water temperature. And why the 'oh wise one' crap? I'm quoting a song lyric. Go ask Gordon Lightfoot.

Yup. Superior is cold enough that the bodies don't decompose as they would in warmer water. Without bacteria producing air, the bodies stay down & don't float to the surface.

[Retroit]

Can you tell us the reason Superior never gives up her dead?

Dead bodies only rise to the surface after bacteria within them creates enough gas to produce buoyancy. Lake Superior is too cold for these bacteria to live, due to her depth and northerly latitude.

[FlyByDon]

Dead bodies only rise to the surface after bacteria within them creates enough gas to produce buoyancy. Lake Superior is too cold for these bacteria to live, due to her depth and northerly latitude.

Retroit: Well done.

[Detroitej72]

Dead bodies only rise to the surface after bacteria within them creates enough gas to produce buoyancy. Lake Superior is too cold for these bacteria to live, due to her depth and northerly latitude.

In a book I have about the Fitz, they discuss a picture taken during one of the diving explorations. In the picture, there can be seen a body[[most likely one of the crewman) wearing a life vest lying close to the wreckage and that was the explanation given for why it never floated to the surface.

[Johnlodge]

The captain wired in he had water comin' in
and the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when 'is lights went out of sight
came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

[Meddle]

Can you tell us oh wise one, the reason Superior never gives up her dead? And why does legend refer to Lake Superior as female?

Also remember that the ballad refers to folklore and Native American legend.

[Detroitej72]

Superior it's said never gives up her dead

When the Gales of November come early...

[ScienceFair]

And if anyone is feeling particularly nostalgic, stop by the Dossin Museum on Belle Isle this evening. http://www.detroithistorical.org/mai...ng_events.aspx

[Detroitnerd]

Thanks, Sciencefair.

[Pam]

Here's Gordon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0DqPSF2fyo

[kryptonite]

Wow, my brother worked on the dock where Chene Park is now on the night of the storm. he saw the EF pass by on it's last trip through the Detroit River to Duluth I believe.

The ore boat in dock that night washed out into the Detroit River the storm was that strong even here. Later they heard the news about EF.

[jcole]

The Fitz was on her way back from Wisconsin coming downward bound when she broke up near Whitefish Bay

[DetroitFats]

The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay/
If they'd put 15 more miles behind them

[Blueidone]

'And why does legend refer to Lake Superior as female? "

My theory would be because Lake Superior is part of the nature created by Mother Nature... Or Mother Earth to the native americans.

[jcole]

Nerd, Blueidone is referring to the question posed to me by jbd441:

Today, 11:28 AM
jbd441

Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcole
Superior it's said never gives up her dead
Can you tell us oh wise one, the reason Superior never gives up her dead? And why does legend refer to Lake Superior as female?

[Detroitnerd]

Yeah, I deleted the post. I am always looking for an excuse to make fun of "Amerikkans" -- but that was irrelevant. Agreed.