UAW makes history with pivotal win at auto plant in South

[Richard]

Please stop thinking, Richard. Take a pill.

You should stop taking pills and try thinking with a clearer mind.

You are quoting Harvard,an institution where you can buy good grades so you have all day to hate on Jews,instead of getting a legitimate education.

What’s next,how to better your life in 10 easy steps - written by Karl Marx?

[Honky Tonk]

You should stop taking pills and try thinking with a clearer mind.

You are quoting Harvard,an institution where you can buy good grades so you have all day to hate on Jews,instead of getting a legitimate education.

What’s next,how to better your life in 10 easy steps - written by Karl Marx?

You forgot to add and that Uncle Joe will reimburse you for doing all that!

[JBMcB]

The biggest prize would be Tesla and Toyota, whom are currently building out completely automated factories. The technology is there, and has been for about a decade now. The only hurdle has been industrial parts shortages as of late, and those supply chains are starting to loosen up.

[313WX]

The biggest prize would be Tesla and Toyota, whom are currently building out completely automated factories. The technology is there, and has been for about a decade now. The only hurdle has been industrial parts shortages as of late, and those supply chains are starting to loosen up.

Indeed.

As big of a win as VW is from an optics standpoint, they're a fairly small player in the US compared to most other foreign automakers

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Indeed.

As big of a win as VW is from an optics standpoint, they're a fairly small player in the US compared to most other foreign automakers

A win is a win regardless. VW won't be the last one. Of course these companies want to go to automation instead of doing the right thing and pay the workers their worth for slaving on the line to stuff more money in their pockets. They know automation will eliminate jobs, thus they keep their average 7.25 million salary per year which will grow even more if they don't have to pay line workers just the technicians that repair the automation.

[JBMcB]

They know automation will eliminate jobs, thus they keep their average 7.25 million salary per year which will grow even more if they don't have to pay line workers just the technicians that repair the automation.

I love playing this game. Let's say Ford fired the executive board and gave all of their salaries to the hourly workers. That would be a yearly pay increase of, roughly, $1,100. If you extended that out to the VPs, it might add another few hundred on top of that.

Now let's take the base salary increase the UAW negotiated with Ford last year. It's roughly $18 an hour for starting salaries. Multiplied out by 57,000 workers, that's $2 billion dollars in higher labor costs, conservatively [[40 hour work week, a couple weeks of unpaid vacation) That's *just* taking in to account the hourly wage, and not the additional benefit costs [[supplemental unemployment, short work week, counseling services, etc...)

[Satiricalivory]

A win is a win regardless. VW won't be the last one. Of course these companies want to go to automation instead of doing the right thing and pay the workers their worth for slaving on the line to stuff more money in their pockets. They know automation will eliminate jobs, thus they keep their average 7.25 million salary per year which will grow even more if they don't have to pay line workers just the technicians that repair the automation.

Automation whenever possible would happen regardless if the wage is 11 dollars or 20 dollars. You think they'll keep paying more for workers if they just get payed a little less? No they'll eliminate you union or not.

But the fact remains, the world runs on human labor and that isn't changing probably ever. 100% automation is sci-fi fantasy.

[JBMcB]

But the fact remains, the world runs on human labor and that isn't changing probably ever. 100% automation is sci-fi fantasy.

Depends on what you mean by automation. LEGO just opened a 1.7 million square foot factory in Virginia that runs 24/7. It employs 1700 staff. So that's a bit over 500 per shift. Nearly all the jobs are technicians and janitors, with a handful of loaders and truck drivers. The technicians are mainly molding machine maintenance workers. The only actual manufacturing work humans do are loading plastic pellets into one side of the factory, and loading pallets of boxes into trucks on the other.

Tesla and Toyota are currently building the equivalent for cars. Humans will load steel coils and parts into one end of the factory, and the cars will self-drive out the other end. They'll be a few maintenance workers and QC inspectors, and that's it.