Why Tesla autoworkers need the UAW

[Richard]

Well then buy more F150s, and raise the stock price while helping out your fellow Americans. Isn’t that your habitual song and dance?

I mean Tesla is run by a Canadian/South African dual citizen that never bothered to get US citizenship. Heck, Naphta is probably more of a worry to him than Nafta is to the competition.

Considering American trucks are currently in the top 3 of the most unreliable sold,I will pass,I do have a newish one but it is for business so customers are paying for it,personally I am not going to pay $80k for a depreciating asset.

Those building the trucks have a household filled with made in China products and do what everybody else does,buy the cheapest products they can find,and the unions they pay to protect their interests as workers did little to prevent that sucking sound which is why their membership is constantly falling but it is easy to blame RTW.

Besides a F150 is not a truck,it’s a car that identifies as a truck,if you cannot put a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back it’s useless.

Granted my F250 SD does what it was designed for,but you cannot fit a sheet of plywood in the back and as a work truck,as most of them are sold for,it’s not necessary to fill them with more gadgets then Carter has liver pills,that makes them unreliable and expensive.

If offered a “fleet truck” without all the extra gadgets,a basic stripped down model without all the gadgets they would probably have a good and reliable basic platform at a lower cost.

[401don]

Besides a F150 is not a truck,it’s a car that identifies as a truck,if you cannot put a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back it’s useless.

Granted my F250 SD does what it was designed for,but you cannot fit a sheet of plywood in the back and as a work truck,as most of them are sold for,it’s not necessary to fill them with more gadgets then Carter has liver pills,that makes them unreliable and expensive.
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My nephew puts 4x8 plywood in the back of his Maverick but you can't put it in an F150? Okay.

[Richard]

My nephew puts 4x8 plywood in the back of his Maverick but you can't put it in an F150? Okay.

Good for your nephew,I can stick a 4x8 plywood on the roof of my Jaguar and say it works.

Clearly you have never been in the trades and things have to be explained in detail for you.

In the trades - which most drive trucks to get supplies,the ability to place a 4x8 piece of plywood in the bed flat and still being able to close the tailgate in order to keep the load from sliding out,is the preferred method and the standard of trucks as they used to be.

You never been at an intersection and watched somebody with a load in the back of their truck dump out on the street when they took off?

I had a 1989 Volvo station wagon that I could lay the plywood flat in and close the gate.

If you are cold,come down to Florida,I will give you $10,000 cash if you can lay a 4x8 sheet of plywood flat in the bed of my 2022 F250 and close the gate.

If you cannot then you have to pay me ,but because your nephew can do it in his maverick,what ever that is,you have nothing to lose.

Flat between the wheel wells so the wind cannot catch it and flip it on the cars behind you,not 1/2 in and the other 1/2 hanging out the back,like it would be with the Maverick which is 4.5’ long,so in order to make it a real truck they would have to stretch it another 4’ long and wider so the plywood would fit between the wheel wells.

My 1970 Ford F150 is 50” between the wheel wells and 8’ 6” length in the bed,because they built trucks for the trades and considering most in the trades drive trucks,ya kinda figure they would be built for that reason,but they are not any more,they are luxury cars that identify as a truck,you do not need 3/4 of the garbage they put in them that drives the prices up and causes the service nightmares that they do.

Okay?

The other problem is when they are used in the trades,they are a work truck and workers do not give a crap,pay $80k for a truck and within weeks it will be scratched and dented.

They all used to build fleet trucks,but why sell a durable and reliable truck when you can fluff it up for 10x the money and give people no other choice.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Considering American trucks are currently in the top 3 of the most unreliable sold,I will pass,I do have a newish one but it is for business so customers are paying for it,personally I am not going to pay $80k for a depreciating asset.

Those building the trucks have a household filled with made in China products and do what everybody else does,buy the cheapest products they can find,and the unions they pay to protect their interests as workers did little to prevent that sucking sound which is why their membership is constantly falling but it is easy to blame RTW.

Besides a F150 is not a truck,it’s a car that identifies as a truck,if you cannot put a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back it’s useless.

Granted my F250 SD does what it was designed for,but you cannot fit a sheet of plywood in the back and as a work truck,as most of them are sold for,it’s not necessary to fill them with more gadgets then Carter has liver pills,that makes them unreliable and expensive.

If offered a “fleet truck” without all the extra gadgets,a basic stripped down model without all the gadgets they would probably have a good and reliable basic platform at a lower cost.

Spoken like a true Patriot, right Richard?

[canuck]

Considering American trucks are currently in the top 3 of the most unreliable sold,I will pass,I do have a newish one but it is for business so customers are paying for it,personally I am not going to pay $80k for a depreciating asset.

Those building the trucks have a household filled with made in China products and do what everybody else does,buy the cheapest products they can find,and the unions they pay to protect their interests as workers did little to prevent that sucking sound which is why their membership is constantly falling but it is easy to blame RTW.

Besides a F150 is not a truck,it’s a car that identifies as a truck,if you cannot put a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back it’s useless.

Granted my F250 SD does what it was designed for,but you cannot fit a sheet of plywood in the back and as a work truck,as most of them are sold for,it’s not necessary to fill them with more gadgets then Carter has liver pills,that makes them unreliable and expensive.

If offered a “fleet truck” without all the extra gadgets,a basic stripped down model without all the gadgets they would probably have a good and reliable basic platform at a lower cost.

I am also wanting to stay away from buying a new car, it’s easy enough if the one you have is reliable. Whether one buys a 35k or 80k car though, both are depreciating to the point where the main question is how much down the line. Of course Teslers have a certain advantage in terms of reliability in spite of build issues. The cold weather issues are a put-off, the battery replacement may be an issue long term if the carriage is still okay but the cost of anew one is to much to bear.