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    Lowell is there anyone else here besides Detroit_Stylin and myself that goes back in the the late 1990s? There are so many old timers that have been lost due to passing. And some have moved away... still miss Jjaba...

    Back in the early days we invoked "Skipper's Rule" a lot, because so many development dreams were never to be [although that hasn't changed]. And back then there were a LOT of true Ruins of Detroit.

    Sad that in those days we lamented the loss of Hudson's and the Statler. And back then nobody ever dreamed that the MCS would ever rise again.

    And back then Peter Karmanos was the über developer to be talked about on the forums although since the Kwame "stink" and the fortunes of Compuware are nowhere what they once were, he's nowhere on the map for city development.

    Back then nobody dreamed that Dan Gilbert would one day be Detroit's knight of redevelpment. Downtown would still be a hit and miss of major developments.

    And then there's the Ilitches... I think that after Comerica Park opened up, and the Ilitches started their "Macedonian Parking Cartel", with little other development [while they waxed poetically about saving the Fox]. During the entire history of DYes... the Ilitches have never found a large following on this forum. That is except for Ilitch apologist MSU_Steve on DYes [he left the forum once he found out he was wrong], who thought that they would finally mend their ways with Little Caesars Arena... yeah right. In fact if there's one constant theme on DYes... it is that "will the Ilitches every come thru with more than just pretty pictures on their commitment to downtown"?

    So many other tales to tell... with less financially endowed developers to talk about...
    Last edited by Gistok; January-08-24 at 01:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    ...the Ilitches started their "Macedonian Parking Cartel"...
    Ha ha ha, I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Lowell is there anyone else here besides Detroit_Stylin and myself that goes back in the the late 1990s? There are so many old timers that have been lost due to passing. And some have moved away... still miss Jjaba...

    Back in the early days we invoked "Skipper's Rule" a lot, because so many development dreams were never to be [although that hasn't changed]. And back then there were a LOT of true Ruins of Detroit.

    Sad that in those days we lamented the loss of Hudson's and the Statler. And back then nobody ever dreamed that the MCS would ever rise again.

    And back then Peter Karmanos was the über developer to be talked about on the forums although since the Kwame "stink" and the fortunes of Compuware are nowhere what they once were, he's nowhere on the map for city development.

    Back then nobody dreamed that Dan Gilbert would one day be Detroit's knight of redevelpment. Downtown would still be a hit and miss of major developments.

    And then there's the Ilitches... I think that after Comerica Park opened up, and the Ilitches started their "Macedonian Parking Cartel", with little other development [while they waxed poetically about saving the Fox]. During the entire history of DYes... the Ilitches have never found a large following on this forum. That is except for Ilitch apologist MSU_Steve on DYes [he left the forum once he found out he was wrong], who thought that they would finally mend their ways with Little Caesars Arena... yeah right. In fact if there's one constant theme on DYes... it is that "will the Ilitches every come thru with more than just pretty pictures on their commitment to downtown"?

    So many other tales to tell... with less financially endowed developers to talk about...

    That is a good question. I havent seen Jjaba in YEARS.

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