Can Detroit and its Suburbs stop smash and grab robberies!

**Danny** · September-29-23, 07:22 PM

With all the smash and grab robberies hitting in most U.S. cities. Will Detroit and its suburbs be prepared for this sudden flash organized crime?

Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAeXmNxXLh0

**Jimaz** · September-29-23, 07:56 PM

The harvesting of the downtrodden comes not without retribution.

The bourgeoisie are scapegoats for the Parasitic Saboteurs in Power™. Their sole purpose is to absorb retribution lest it disturb one delicate hair on the heads of the Parasitic Saboteurs in Power™.

**Richard** · September-30-23, 01:08 AM

Lol the harvesting of the downtrodden,spoken like a true socialist.

The simple solution is to save taxpayers dollars,when they catch them,send straight to Cuba or China or Russia,the downtrodden has just as much opportunity to not be downtrodden in this country but the socialists and marxists fill their heads with ideas that they are owed something because they exist.

Even the downtrodden in this country live light years above the downtrodden under a socialist regime.

Give them what they seek,Etiópia and dirt for dinner because that is what the downtrodden end up with under their vision.

I do not think there is anything they can do to stop the smash n grabs,actually there is a way but …..

Here they get away with it for a while but there are a million cameras every where and Sooner or later they get caught.

But the damage is already done for the small local business owner,workers and community,they do not care about anybody else or the community.

And that is why people are fleeing those communities.

How can you prepare for them? Lock n load ? Outside of that,close the business down and relocate somewhere that understands the rule of law and provides consequences for actions.

**stasu1213** · October-01-23, 10:23 AM

Stores such as Apple could have displays only on the first floor but have the actual product that is for sell on the second floor or just have the whole store on the second floor on even a two level building on Woodward while securities are on the first floor. Snatch and grabbers usually want easy exits for quick getaways and wouldn't want to be bothered ascending or descending stairs to get away

**Jimaz** · October-01-23, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

... have displays only on the first floor but have the actual product that is for sell on the second floor or ....

Heh. The opposite of "first-floor retail." How ironic.

**oladub** · October-02-23, 08:49 AM

Trump's solution to shoot looters would be illegal. Judges would reign in any police official who started shooting looters. Think George Floyd. On the other hand, Mayor Cavenaugh made a statement in the middle of Detroit looting and riots to the effect that lives were worth more than what was being taking and also gave orders not to shoot. He was right about lives being more valuable than property but his message gave the green light to expand the amount of looting.

Merchants have a fiduciary duty to shut down operations if theft makes profits impossible. That leaves food and pharmacy deserts which also kill people for lack of access to inexpensive and healthy food. Even the innocent are punished.

Consider the length of sentences being given Jan.6 rioters who broke into or were let in the Capitol building or otherwise caused property damage. I think those punishments are too harsh but what punishment do the looters who are doing even more damage to their own communities and inadvertently killing people receive?

In Romeo and Juliet, the Prince blames himself for not putting a stop to hatred and discord.
Prince Escalus.
See, what a scourge is laid upon your hate,
That heaven finds means to kill your joys with love.
And I for winking at your discords too
Have lost a brace of kinsmen: all are punish'd.

That's what are leaders are doing. They are winking at discord in schools, on the street, and even on an island somewhere.

**13606Cedargrove** · October-02-23, 09:13 AM

When did Trump suggest shooting looters?

**oladub** · October-02-23, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by 13606Cedargrove

When did Trump suggest shooting looters?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-store.html

**Richard** · October-02-23, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by 13606Cedargrove

When did Trump suggest shooting looters?

He said it at a Cali event,not allowing me to copy and paste links.

My first thought also but we all say what we think while knowing realistically it’s not feasible.

It’s also messaging saying that they need to suffer harsh repercussions or at least be accountable for their actions,but it varies by city,I do not think it will be an issue in Detroit or surrounding as they have not lost their grasp on reality yet and the rule of law still exists unlike in other cities.

He clarified the police because unless it is an individual store owner you would not want to place that task on the employees,the cities it is out of hand in have reduced police forces so it is not even plausible because it is smash n grab,police would not have enough time to respond.

Sounds good at the moment to be tough on crime at a time when sone just want to look the other way and hope it all goes away.

**JBMcB** · October-02-23, 02:31 PM

Yes, it takes teamwork, though.

A few weeks ago a few suburban police departments teamed up with the FBI to catch a crew working along I-75. They tore up a jewelry store at Great Lakes Crossing and ran off onto I-75 where a getaway car was pulled off on the shoulder. Apparently they made the mistake of roughing up the employees, which made it a possible federal case, so the FBI got involved. They tracked down the car on traffic cams and sent notices out to nearby malls. Mall security at Oakland spotted the suspect vehicle dropping off a few guys and pulling away. They called the cops, who found the getaway vehicle idling on I-75. They let them pick up the thieves after the next smash-and-grab, then nailed them before they got to the Rochester exit.

There's a different multi-jurisdiction task force based in Troy that tracks smash-and grab gangs, purse snatchers, mail thieves, scammers, and the like.

**Danny** · October-03-23, 06:38 AM

A proposed Apple Store in Gilbert Town Detroit may had to be put on hold until they find a crime deterrent program to stop smash and grabbers.

**Danny** · October-03-23, 06:46 AM

"In Romeo and Juliet, the Prince blames himself for not putting a stop to hatred and discord."

But this is not just a Romeo and Juliet problem, It's a 'Robbin Hood' problem.

**Richard** · October-03-23, 08:14 AM

Speaking of crime and crime prevention,what happened to your Robo Cop guy that was supposed to be placed in front of MTS?

That would have been a deterrent.

**Wheels** · October-03-23, 08:22 AM

The answers are simple but liberals loose their mind when you talk about severe punishment and making examples! This is not about race but all the virtue signaling make it impossible to press charges. Just a couple of high profile cases with prosecution would be a huge deterrent!

**Jimaz** · October-03-23, 09:10 AM

A mind is a terrible thing to loose.

**stasu1213** · October-03-23, 10:21 AM

These Smash and Grab incidents are not due the grabbers being impoverished. It mostly due to young people just doing it for fun and seeing what they could get away with. The targeted areas in cities across the country are mostly the downtown areas that have national chain retail and maybe a few convenient stores. A group had tried it in Detroit during the Geore Floyd unrest but community leaders had gotten together to stop the opportunists from wreaking havoc downtown and other areas of Detroit. These looters are well organized probably through the internet by secret meetings or code words. One of the causes of retail districts closing across the country are the Smash and Grab occurrences

**K-slice** · October-03-23, 11:21 AM

Is this a big problem locally and I'm not aware of it?

Easy solution, keep some bear mace behind the counter. When these guys come in spray them down and call the police. Pretty tough to get back to the getaway vehicle quickly when you can't see or breath. Plus if they do the mace on their clothes will likely blind the driver too.

Oh, and FUND the police and court system, and punish criminals to the fullest extent of the law.

**401don** · October-03-23, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Wheels

The answers are simple but liberals loose their mind when you talk about severe punishment and making examples! This is not about race but all the virtue signaling make it impossible to press charges. Just a couple of high profile cases with prosecution would be a huge deterrent!

Because locking people up for long sentences has worked in the past? Even the death penalty doesn't deter murder so not sure a couple of years would deter smash and grab.

**401don** · October-03-23, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by K-slice

Is this a big problem locally and I'm not aware of it?

Easy solution, keep some bear mace behind the counter. When these guys come in spray them down and call the police. Pretty tough to get back to the getaway vehicle quickly when you can't see or breath. Plus if they do the mace on their clothes will likely blind the driver too.

Oh, and FUND the police and court system, and punish criminals to the fullest extent of the law.

Bear mace works great until his buddy pulls out a gun before it's his turn.

**Richard** · October-03-23, 02:48 PM

You cannot really expect the employees to risk their lives for the Merchendise,insurance will cover it.

I think it should be handled like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4UBXTC...5vdyB5b3UgY2Fu

**Wheels** · October-04-23, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by 401don

Because locking people up for long sentences has worked in the past? Even the death penalty doesn't deter murder so not sure a couple of years would deter smash and grab.

Do you really think the current system of catch and release works?

**Gistok** · October-04-23, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Wheels

The answers are simple but liberals loose their mind when you talk about severe punishment and making examples! This is not about race but all the virtue signaling make it impossible to press charges. Just a couple of high profile cases with prosecution would be a huge deterrent!

You might be right... the 950+ Jan. 6 prosecutions made a LOT of people regret what they did!

**K-slice** · October-04-23, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by 401don

Bear mace works great until his buddy pulls out a gun before it's his turn.

Then it's armed robbery, which is different from a smash and grab. In a smash and grab the criminals do just that; Smash what they need to access merchandise and run away.

**Richard** · October-05-23, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

You might be right... the 950+ Jan. 6 prosecutions made a LOT of people regret what they did!

What does it say when the full force of the government can be used to go after somebody while other city’s do not bat an eye when it comes to looking the other way when it comes to crime.

You can be a target of the methods used in that case that people were willing to look the other way,so yes to most it was justified ,but it came at a price that more citizens will pay a higher price ,then any of those that were convicted.

It also opened the door and got the approval of the use of mass surveillance by the federal and local government on the population,so it has cost them their freedom,but it came at a price to your freedoms that you have also given up in the process.

Now in most urban cities,when you leave your house,your vehicle is tracked everywhere you go and your movements are stored in a private database and a profile is built on your movements that will follow you and can be used against you for the rest of your life.

The people that are doing the smash n grabs,they are not being caught in the act,every single license plate in a 5 block radius,it does not matter if you participated in it or not you will be investigated.

So the news reports it as it happens but they are not reporting that a majority are getting caught and rounded up a few weeks later.

The stores that are closing down locations,a lot of it has to do with inventory loss but more so they have a level of responsibility to protect the customer while in their store.

So if a innocent shopper gets hurt during the process,they are going to have a line of lawyers a block long wanting to take their case.

Kinda strange if you think about it,a business owner has a duty to protect you that the police do not.

**Zacha341** · October-13-23, 07:31 AM

I'm glad Detroit is not experiencing the same level of smash-and-grab, shop-lifting by the shopping cart-loads deluxe of San Fran, Chicago, Seattle etc.

Those partaking of such in those cities clearly KNOW they'll not be prosecuted. More to the point their actions are heartily justified as 'justice' served!