Perhaps we should simply legalize prostitution

[Hypestyles]

This really sucks for him…

ha! I see what you did there.

The board seemingly is still powerless when it comes to enforcing disciplinary actions against DPD personnel. Between the arguably mayoral-friendly appointees of Mr. Duggan and elected folks who tend to be police-culture adjacent [retired from DPD or Wayne Co. Deputies] or just more inclined to be culturally conservative, in particular senior-citizen-aged members [[e.g. Rev. Jim Holley), those of the generation for whom it was, ostensibly, enough to advocate for more robust black membership in DPD, but in the modern "guns everywhere, super-predators everywhere" era, they are loathe to critique problematic policies such as ShotStopper or the facial-recognition tech surveillance program.
That the board is volunteer-based is also something that leads to it being off the radar of many local residents. And the money it takes to mount a substantive campaign is significant.
Detroit's Board of Police Commissioners is dysfunctional | Editorial [[freep.com)

2021: Fractious squabbling among commissioners undermines the board's ability to fulfill its charter-mandated duty to shape department policy, or even to attain the political credibility that would allow it to be an effective champion for police reform.
For reasons that are unclear, the board has been unable to fill key positions, like chief investigator or board attorney, further diminishing its capacity to fulfill its oversight role.

Regarding legalization or even "simply" decriminalization of in-person sex work, I don't predict this anytime soon. At the state level, I feel safe to speculate that Whitmer won't touch it lest the GOP politicos start jumping on her to suggest that she's encouraging sex trafficking [especially in light of the recent amendment of Michigan's marriage age to 18, it would be a firestorm of bad-faith criticisms], and then using that notion to smear Democrats writ large. Look for the moralists among Detroit's black electorate, especially clergy, to campaign against it [all the city's megachurch leaders, most certainly], ironically suggesting the same things as the [mostly] Caucasian Republicans who hate everything Detroit related on principle. With the black women and girls who go missing on a recurring basis, part of the standard narrative of community reactions is that they've been kidnapped to be exploited sexually. Regional Detroit candidates for office mostly want the support of black Christian culture and most candidates rarely make moves that really push the envelope of progressive measures. They, too, don't want to be seen as "soft on crime".
It would take a hell of a lot of effort to get progressive legislation passed on sex work in Detroit.

[Gistok]

Yeah, it was on Third Ave., and the Cass Corridor south of WSU.

AFAIK that's where they got the name Midtown, 'cuz the hookers were mid-to low-priced, unlike those fancy escorts farther north.

Nope... Susan Mosey, executive director of Midtown Inc. for 30 years, helped coin 'Midtown'. To hookers and Johns alike the Cass Corridor was always the Cass Corridor.

[Henry Whalley]

Nope... Susan Mosey, executive director of Midtown Inc. for 30 years, helped coin 'Midtown'. To hookers and Johns alike the Cass Corridor was always the Cass Corridor.

Yeah, I was yust yoking. But in truth the prices were low to mid, and negotiable [I'm told.]

P.S. No disrespect to Susan Mosey, but 'Midtown' doesn't make any sense. I prefer Cass Corridor for the area south of Grand Blvd. and Cass Ave.

[Gistok]

Midtown & New Center/Milwaukee Junction...

One can hardly say that Brush Park, Medical Center or Cultural Center are part of Cass Corridor. Midtown is a logical name for the area between Downtown and New Center. Now if you want to call North Cass and South Cass areas as the Cass Corridor... so be it.

[softailrider]

Yeah, it was on Third Ave., and the Cass Corridor south of WSU.

AFAIK that's where they got the name Midtown, 'cuz the hookers were mid-to low-priced, unlike those fancy escorts farther north.

I don't think that had anything at all to do with the Midtown moniker.

[softailrider]

ha! I see what you did there.

The board seemingly is still powerless when it comes to enforcing disciplinary actions against DPD personnel. Between the arguably mayoral-friendly appointees of Mr. Duggan and elected folks who tend to be police-culture adjacent [retired from DPD or Wayne Co. Deputies] or just more inclined to be culturally conservative, in particular senior-citizen-aged members [[e.g. Rev. Jim Holley), those of the generation for whom it was, ostensibly, enough to advocate for more robust black membership in DPD, but in the modern "guns everywhere, super-predators everywhere" era, they are loathe to critique problematic policies such as ShotStopper or the facial-recognition tech surveillance program.
That the board is volunteer-based is also something that leads to it being off the radar of many local residents. And the money it takes to mount a substantive campaign is significant.
Detroit's Board of Police Commissioners is dysfunctional | Editorial [[freep.com)



Regarding legalization or even "simply" decriminalization of in-person sex work, I don't predict this anytime soon. At the state level, I feel safe to speculate that Whitmer won't touch it lest the GOP politicos start jumping on her to suggest that she's encouraging sex trafficking [especially in light of the recent amendment of Michigan's marriage age to 18, it would be a firestorm of bad-faith criticisms], and then using that notion to smear Democrats writ large. Look for the moralists among Detroit's black electorate, especially clergy, to campaign against it [all the city's megachurch leaders, most certainly], ironically suggesting the same things as the [mostly] Caucasian Republicans who hate everything Detroit related on principle. With the black women and girls who go missing on a recurring basis, part of the standard narrative of community reactions is that they've been kidnapped to be exploited sexually. Regional Detroit candidates for office mostly want the support of black Christian culture and most candidates rarely make moves that really push the envelope of progressive measures. They, too, don't want to be seen as "soft on crime".
It would take a hell of a lot of effort to get progressive legislation passed on sex work in Detroit.

Same clergy folks didn't have any problem with legalizing marijuana. Is that supposed to do everybody a world of good?

[Henry Whalley]

Detroit's Board of Police Commissioners is dysfunctional | Editorial [[freep.com)

Thanks for the article.

It unfairly mentions bickering and yearning. But are not these two of any board's most productive activities?

Perhaps the reason why the commish [now presidential material] expected to get a break from the [commendable] officer who cited him, was because he was being soft on crime while being serviced in his vehicle. If the rules in Detroit are anything like those in Lansing or Washington, D.C., vehicle depreciation and mileage in-and-around town are tax deductible. And heaven knows that frequenting hookers will depreciate a fellow, and pile-up city miles on him, quicker than most other political activities.

In all fairness though, the DBOC promised to be more transparent -- and indecent exposure is beyond the call of booty.

It's been reported that the Detroit Board of Police Commissioners is under investigation, probably by health-care workers looking for STDs.

Detroit Board of Police Commissioners under investigation [[freep.com)

[Franksgoodnephew]

Haven't we done that already? 50% of guys would call that marriage, but not me.

[Franksgoodnephew]

Nope. Still wrong and morally corrupt to indulge in or make a living in that kind of "work".

[Henry Whalley]

Nope. Still wrong and morally corrupt to indulge in or make a living in that kind of "work".

Politics?

[canuck]

Politics?

Indeed. The oldest sideline.

[Baselinepunk]

Yes, we should legalize. It's a no-brainer.

It would be safer for all involved and the revenue is taxed.

I'll even speculate that divorce rates would drop!

Of course, the people who would be pissed would be the usual suspects: ya local religo-huckster, legals, Repubic/MAGAs, closeted homophobes -- all of which would loose what little capital they have left.

We need to start looking towards the 22nd century and get rid of these antiquated and arcane "religio-fascist" laws.

So long at "its" consensual and with agreed to terms -- it's no of your, or my, damn business.

[Richard]

That shows a mentality in itself,sorry honey,prostitution is legal so I can screw around on you as much as I like,it’s justified.

Next people will be advocating for a monthly stipend of government crack,so everybody can get laid.

Legalized or not,every time you get the government involved the price goes up so the market for cheap crack/meth hoes will still be there,just like with weed where those selling it still have to sell the illegal stuff in order to make ends meet.

People keep coming up with all of these brainchild ideas based on - you can tax it,anybodys taxes dropped yet after the legalization of weed?

[Vic01]

...local religo-huckster, legals, Repubic/MAGAs, closeted homophobes ...

They'd likely be first in line, as they often are now

[Richard]

They'd likely be first in line, as they often are now

Actually during the 2020 election the top democrats that were and still are in power,minuis the one that passed were asked the question- would you approve of legalizing prostitution- they all chose to not answer including Bernie.

The ones that did approve was the squad,but they lack morals anyways and I am sure they would have no problem with their spouses sleeping with crack hoes.

Funny I thought BC was a dem,but then again their might be some kind of reward for getting a bj in the White House.

So do not act like only one party has the balls and the others are incapable,the part that gets me is they have the financial means in order to hire professionals where nobody would ever find out,but they are so cheap they get caught.

That’s why it becomes a stumbling point,because people have to make it political instead of the actual merits of legalization or decriminalize.

The #2 favors decriminalizing,maybe it’s because if it is totally legal it might entice her hubby to stray without repercussions.

[Zacha341]

Well prostitution is often touted as a 'victimless crime' among THE consenting adults. Not so safe and good-times for the customers seeking services from an Ohio prostitute who went on a bit of killing spree:

Rebecca Auborn, 33, of Columbus, killed four men with fatal fentanyl doses in order to rob them, officials said

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...lty-rcna122808

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/...g/71319741007/

[Zacha341]

Hah! When cast in this manner WHAT can't be justified? Applicable and aspirational to the better good?

I just hope the fascism remains constrained to the so-called "religio-fascist" types - not arising again from the secular-fascist types!

"Arcane" history does NOT demonstrate such constraints or boundaries.

Of course, the people who would be pissed would be the usual suspects: ya local religo-huckster, legals, Repubic/MAGAs, closeted homophobes -- all of which would loose what little capital they have left.

We need to start looking towards the 22nd century and get rid of these antiquated and arcane "religio-fascist" laws...

[Henry Whalley]

Indeed. The oldest sideline.

When I read today's headline saying that feds busted a high-end brothel, I thought 'Great, they busted Congress and SCOTUS!'

[canuck]

When I read today's headline saying that feds busted a high-end brothel, I thought 'Great, they busted Congress and SCOTUS!'

Amen!

We have a little barnyard version of your brothel up here in Ottawa. Most of them don’t cost much per trick. Heck, the Senators are nominated here, a sort of Canadian House of Lords, with all that implies…

[Henry Whalley]

[QUOTE=canuck;638254]Amen!

...little barnyard version of your brothel up here in Ottawa./QUOTE]

Barnyard! Are we talking bestiality? Like in our red states?

P.S. Our hookers pre-determined by gerrymander

[Hermod]

Yes, we should legalize. It's a no-brainer.

It would be safer for all involved and the revenue is taxed.

I'll even speculate that divorce rates would drop!

Of course, the people who would be pissed would be the usual suspects: ya local religo-huckster, legals, Repubic/MAGAs, closeted homophobes -- all of which would loose what little capital they have left.

We need to start looking towards the 22nd century and get rid of these antiquated and arcane "religio-fascist" laws.

So long at "its" consensual and with agreed to terms -- it's no of your, or my, damn business.

To make it really safe, we should make it a government monopoly with all activity taking place in government owned facilities. Put all the ladies involved in civil service with civil service protections. Any "outside traffic" is punished under IRS rules [[guilty unless proven innocent of tax evasion). In twenty years, the employees will mostly be so old and ugly that no one will bother.

[Honky Tonk]

To make it really safe, we should make it a government monopoly with all activity taking place in government owned facilities. Put all the ladies involved in civil service with civil service protections. Any "outside traffic" is punished under IRS rules [[guilty unless proven innocent of tax evasion). In twenty years, the employees will mostly be so old and ugly that no one will bother.

You forgot full retirement and pension with full medical coverage. Oh, and maybe combat pay.

[Henry Whalley]

To make it really safe, we should make it a government monopoly with all activity taking place in government owned facilities.

Hermod: That's a truly a witless attempt at satire. Not even mildly humorous. Good satire requires subtlety and IQ.

[Henry Whalley]

I don't think that had anything at all to do with the Midtown moniker.

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