Fouts is Out[s] in Warren

**Richard** · August-10-23, 06:06 PM

Halle Barry is married to Oliver Martinez - She is racist

Iman is married to David Bowie she is racist

John Legend dating Cristy Teigen she is racist

Seal is married to Hedi Klum he or she is racist

Retina Wesley is married to James Fishel he is racist

See how easy it is,just say somebody is racist and they are.

Next it will be just say somebody is a witch and then you can justify burning them at the stake in the public square.

Or as a white woman just say a black guy raped you and the lynching party forms ups.

It’s all fun and games until they come for you.

**Gistok** · August-10-23, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

Halle Barry is married to Oliver Martinez - She is racist

Iman is married to David Bowie she is racist

John Legend dating Cristy Teigen she is racist

Seal is married to Hedi Klum he or she is racist

Retina Wesley is married to James Fishel he is racist

See how easy it is,just say somebody is racist and they are.

Next it will be just say somebody is a witch and then you can justify burning them at the stake in the public square.

Or as a white woman just say a black guy raped you and the lynching party forms ups.

It’s all fun and games until they come for you.

Richard you take logical reasoning to a whole new depth...

When you say "see how easy it is"... yes... using logical fallacies in an argument makes arguing very easy... not valid... but easy.

Weak analogy
Definition: Many arguments rely on an analogy between two or more objects, ideas, or situations. If the two things that are being compared aren't really alike in the relevant respects, the analogy is a weak one, and the argument that relies on it commits the fallacy of weak analogy.

Slippery slope
Definition: Slippery slope fallacy occurs when a person asserts that a relatively small step will lead to a chain of events that result in a drastic change or a negative outcome. This assertion is called a slippery slope argument.

**Richard** · August-11-23, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

Richard you take logical reasoning to a whole new depth...

When you say "see how easy it is"... yes... using logical fallacies in an argument makes arguing very easy... not valid... but easy.

Weak analogy
Definition: Many arguments rely on an analogy between two or more objects, ideas, or situations. If the two things that are being compared aren't really alike in the relevant respects, the analogy is a weak one, and the argument that relies on it commits the fallacy of weak analogy.

Slippery slope
Definition: Slippery slope fallacy occurs when a person asserts that a relatively small step will lead to a chain of events that result in a drastic change or a negative outcome. This assertion is called a slippery slope argument.

projection, the mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds.

https://www.britannica.com/science/p...ion-psychology

If something is obnoxious, it's annoying and unpleasant. Generally, people like to avoid obnoxious folks.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/obnoxious

**jcole** · August-11-23, 06:58 AM

Name recognition and laziness on the part of voters.

Originally Posted by CassTechGrad

Many people are saying the exact same thing about Mayor Young, there's a post about his 50th anniversary on this site right now. How could both guys be so highly criticized but still keep getting elected?

**Gistok** · August-12-23, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

projection, the mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds.

https://www.britannica.com/science/p...ion-psychology

If something is obnoxious, it's annoying and unpleasant. Generally, people like to avoid obnoxious folks.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/obnoxious

Ad hominem Fallacy
Ad hominem means “against the man,” and this type of fallacy is sometimes called name calling or the personal attack fallacy. This type of fallacy occurs when someone attacks the person instead of attacking his or her argument.

**takascar** · August-15-23, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

Just like Trump thinks he should be president forever, term limits be damned... I don't think so. He's done enough damage, and just divided the country even more. Can't speak for Fouts, I don't live in Warren.

Trump never said he wanted to be president forever. Stop making s**t up.

**mwilbert** · August-15-23, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by takascar

Trump never said he wanted to be president forever. Stop making s**t up.

Well, he kind of did. I will acknowledge that it was probably not 100% serious. But of course that's the way Trump does stuff all the time--says stuff, and then says it was a joke or something.

People can judge that for themselves, but he did go there.

https://people.com/politics/donald-t...2020-campaign/

**Danny** · August-16-23, 07:41 AM

Let us take a historical journey through Mayor Jim Fouts "Stalin's" tenure as he turn Warren into a New Soviet Union!

His enforcement of local building codes led to the demolition of dilapidated buildings and the promotion of neighborhood "clean sweeps" by city inspectors and was touted as a model for other mayors. Part of his "clean sweeps" He ordered the record store Detroit Rock City to move out of the Van Dyke Commercial District for he claims is " too ghetto-looking!" Also his proposed new Downtown Warren along Van Dyke Rd. And 12 Mile Rd. is stalled! At least a new city hall and library is installed.

In response to the challenges facing the automotive industry, an industry which employs many Warren residents, he initiated a "Buy American Products" policy for automotive purchases by heads of city departments.

In 2009, Fouts tried to convince General Motors to relocate its headquarters from Detroit to Warren.

His 2011 re-election campaign was endorsed by the Detroit Free Press who said the campaign had become "way too focused on legal battles over Fouts' age" which became an issue when his opponents filed suit to remove him from the ballot because he had refused to place his age on the candidacy form. He won the lawsuit and the election with more than 80% of the vote against City Councilwoman Kathy Vogt.

In 2012, he acted to ban smoking within 100 feet of any city building without legislative approval, but the court said he did not have the authority and had the "No Smoking" signs removed. Fouts brought the measure back to the city council, after they had tabled it in September.

In July 2014, Fouts personally denied permission to establish an irreligious "Reason Booth" at Warren City Hall, as a counterpoint to a "Prayer Booth" that was established in the city hall's atrium by a local Pentecostal church in 2009. The resident denied permission, Douglas Marshall, filed a federal lawsuit against both the city and Fouts. Represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and Freedom From Religion Foundation, Marshall's lawsuit was based on the First Amendment rights to free speech and a violation of the Establishment Clause. The defendants failed to respond to the lawsuit, and in 2015 the federal court ordered that the reason station "be allowed to operate on terms not less favorable than the terms granted to the 'Prayer Station' currently allowed in the atrium space" and entered a $100,000 judgment against the city and Fouts for costs, damages and attorney fees.

In 2014, Fouts sued to invalidate 2014 Proposal 1, a voter-approved referendum that eliminated the Michigan personal property tax for businesses [[which applies to industrial machinery and office equipment) and replaced it with an Internet sales tax. Fouts alleged that the ballot wording was biased. The Michigan Court of Claims declined to invalidate the ballot initiative, and Fouts ultimately dropped an appeal.

In March 2016, Fouts claimed that he was asked by security at the Democratic presidential debate in Flint to refrain from showing excessive enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders, and that he was threatened with ejection.

Fouts won a third term in November 2015, carrying 85% of the vote.

In November 2016, Fouts accused Macomb County Executive Mark Hackel of a coverup of illegal dumping. In response, Hackel provided a series of audio recordings to the media, that he claimed to have received from unidentified sources, allegedly of Fouts making derogatory comments. Fouts claimed that the recordings were manufactured and manipulated. These led to calls for Fouts's resignation. In a post on Facebook, Fouts declared his intention to remain in office through to the end of his term in 2019; he would go on to be reelected to a fourth term later that year, with 57.5% of the vote.

In late 2017, amid the heroin epidemic, Fouts and Warren Police Commissioner Jim Dwyer created a program to offer rewards to residents of the city who give confidential tips to police informing on suspected drug deals.

In April 2020, Fouts directed the Warren Police to not enforce the provision of Governor Gretchen Whitmer's executive order on COVID-19 banning commercial lawn services. Fouts stated the lack of lawn maintenance would lead to higher numbers of mosquitoes and rodents and be a health hazard and that it is an essential service.

In January 2023, Fouts filed paperwork to run for a fifth term as mayor in the November 2023 election, despite voters passing a charter amendment in 2020 establishing a three-term limit for the office of mayor. The city's election clerk approved his candidacy, and was promptly sued by the City Council. Fouts claimed to have been grandfathered in, having been elected to all four terms before the amendment passed; a Macomb County judge sided with Fouts in March. The decision was overturned by the Michigan Court of Appeals in April, and the clerk was ordered to disqualify Fouts.

Now Fouts "Stalin" is out! the People of Warren can be free with a mayor that will hopefully respect the Metro-Detroit region.